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Avid Contributor I
September 2, 2024

Shuffle Apple Music Library

  • September 2, 2024
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PLEASE add an option to Shuffle the Songs in Apple Music Library. This exists for Spotify, it exists for our local music library, it should be able to exist for Apple Music.

 

Here are the “workarounds” and why they are bad:

  • “Just shuffle play in the Apple Music app and airplay to your sonos!” - Then we miss out on Lossless quality, which is reduced over airplay. Plus it’s much better to keep things within the Sonos ecosystem and limit the number of different apps we need to do simple things.
  • “Just start playing any song in your library, and then enable shuffle” - This does not work. The queue will be empty.
  • “Just use the My Station feature in Apple Music” - this is not the same as shuffling an entire library. It’s just some playlist that an algorithm creates, so you can hear familiar songs over and over.
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Pinned Reply By Corry P

Hi @mowgli-san 

Thanks again for flagging this behaviour. We’ve created a ticket for it, but please be aware this issue is on Apple to resolve - we will let them know, but it may have more sway coming from a paying customer like yourself.

I’ve removed the feature request tag from the thread as @controlav is correct.

18 replies

Corry P
Sonos Staff
September 11, 2024

Hi @mowgli-san 

Thank you - I've marked this thread as a feature request and it will be seen by the relevant teams for consideration. Keep the ideas coming!

Edit: no longer a feature request.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein
controlav
Lead Maestro
September 11, 2024

Sorry @Corry P but this is not a feature request, its a regression in the new app.

Desktop app still shows the buttons. The new app is not correctly handling the tags on the Apple Songs list.

https://github.com/amp64/sonosbugtracker/issues/12

Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.
MoPac
Headliner III
September 11, 2024

 I’m confused.  Which Apple Music library music are you referring to that cannot be shuffled.  This is a playlist I created that I was able to shuffle.  This was with the iPhone 15.

 

Corry P
Sonos Staff
September 11, 2024

Hi @controlav 

That may well be the case, but as there’s no ticket open for this, and as I do not know if it is intended that it will come back or not, I have marked it as a feature request. If it doesn’t qualify, at least someone will know that it is missing.

 

Hi @mowgli-san 

@MoPac makes a good point - are you referring to music that has been uploaded to Apple Music, or Apple Music’s own main library?

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein
controlav
Lead Maestro
September 11, 2024

Per the bug tracker I linked, the specific regression is:

  • For example on Apple Music / Library / Songs no Play/Shuffle buttons, can only play them one at a time.
Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.
Avid Contributor I
September 11, 2024

@MoPac not a playlist, click on Songs to see all the songs in one’s library. No option to Shuffle. Same goes for the inability to shuffle an Artist (like we can with Spotify or local library) though maybe that would have to be a separate feature request? 

 

Avid Contributor I
September 11, 2024

@Corry P hopefully my above screenshots help, but to clarify, the Apple Music Library consists of the entirety of my songs - songs that have been saved from Apple Music streaming, and local files that Apple Music has matched or uploaded.

Within Sonos, it would go Apple Music > Library > Songs. No option to shuffle all, we can only play an individual song (out of a list of thousands). Compare this to to Spotify > Your Library > Songs, or Music Library (local) > Songs and you’ll see shuffle options.

MoPac
Headliner III
September 11, 2024

 I see what you are talking about now.  I’ve never used the Songs category in Apple Music.  I exclusively use Apple Music for Dolby Atmos ( Apple misnomer Spacial Audio ).

 I have not fiddled with iTunes on my Windows PC in years.  All my local music is served with MinimServer, Squeezebox Server, MPD on Bryston BDP-2 or indexed either by BlueSound or Sonos.  iTunes just didn’t cut it.  No FLAC support etc.

Corry P
Sonos Staff
September 12, 2024

Hi @mowgli-san 

Thanks - at least we now know why @MoPac didn’t see the same.

I’ve reported it - if it get’s identified as a bug, I’ll add the tracker to this topic and remove the feature request tag.

Thanks again for flagging!

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein
Corry P
Corry PPinned
Sonos Staff
September 12, 2024

Hi @mowgli-san 

Thanks again for flagging this behaviour. We’ve created a ticket for it, but please be aware this issue is on Apple to resolve - we will let them know, but it may have more sway coming from a paying customer like yourself.

I’ve removed the feature request tag from the thread as @controlav is correct.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein