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Please restore SMBv1, you probably have no idea how many Sonos users you have silenced...

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June 18, 2024
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Please please please restore SMBv1, you probably have no idea how many Sonos users you have silenced.

Before the May update music played fine, no issues, no machines compromised, no security issues, no loss of password, it just worked.

Every Sonos user I know has had access to their local libraries dropped, without their permission due to loss of SMBv1 support. Many did not realize what SMBv1 was, their system just worked. Even me didn’t realize, as it just worked, select music and press play...music played.

Come May update, libraries gone, no way to reconnect. Surely it is up to us the users if we want to enable/disable SMBv1 support not Sonos ?

Don’t give me that bollards of “they must move on...” my new Android V14 phone connects fine to SMBv1 share, my Window 11 connects fine so why not Sonos ?

Very very disappointed in Sonos behaviour.

I even wrote a review of Sonos speakers on a major retailers web site about Sonos behaviour and degradation of functionality and a executive contacted me saying are you sure you review is correct it is very negative. I pointed him at this forum and shortly afterwards my one star (lowest possible) review appeared on their website. Mind you all following reviews were one star as well, describing crap app and loss on existing connectivity the speakers were purchased for….

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controlav

Lead Maestro

What old-ass system are you running that only supports SMBv1? Windows for Workgroups 3.11??

Note that the v80 app update has broken some local libraries for many other reasons, still slowly getting fixed, but the dropping of SMBv1 was a righteous change that should affect almost no-one.

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ianm_42Author

Enthusiast I

What old-ass system are you running that only supports SMBv1?

Loads of people affected. Most people who plug a USB stick into the Internet router find SMBv1 only, people with older media players & storage, a lot of single drive NAS drives from a while back, all SMBv1 only. Sad thing is they all worked 100% with Sonos (and Windows 11) until Sonos updated.

My Sonos system worked 100% fine all day one Saturday (whilst doing DIY), then when I came back on Sunday to carry on would no longer play any of my music.

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VinceBoi

Lyricist III

I am an IT guy, SMB 1.0 was dropped for numerous reasons (performance, security and so on) that I will not go over here.

The point is: are you still using a fixed phone with a cord? Probably not. Chances are good that you don’t even have a landline no more, only a cell phone.

Your network desperately needs love if you’re still using a protocol that’s been out there since 1984.

We cannot hold technology evolution forever back for the sake of interoperability.

At one point, a line has to be drawn. If not, the software becomes heavier/slower, harder to support, more vulnerable… and people will also complain about that.

SMB 1.0 was initially introduced in 1984 by IBM as part of their PC network program for file sharing in a DOS (disk operating system) environment. Implementing SMB 1.0 was a big step towards simplified networked file sharing. Microsoft modified and updated this version in 1990, incorporating it into their Windows operating system.
CIFS improved the SMBv1 protocol, delivering better performance, support for long file names, and more advanced security features. Its release in 1996 coincided with the new Windows 95 operating system.
SMB 2.0 was released with Windows Vista in 2006, bringing about another boost in performance and efficiency. SMB 2.0 could deliver data much faster than SMBv1, thanks to various optimizations (such as a reduced number of commands and subcommands).
SMB 2.1 came out with Windows 7, continuing to improve the outstanding inefficiencies of the previous version. SMB 2.1 reduced protocol overhead by minimizing the amount of data exchanged between client and server, improved bandwidth efficiency, and delivered even better performance.
SMB 3.0 was introduced with Windows 8 with more updates and fixes. The most notable improvement SMB 3.0 brought was enhanced security — this protocol version was the first to support end-to-end encryption.

controlav

Lead Maestro

I am an IT guy, SMB 1.0 was dropped for numerous reasons (performance, security and so on) that I will not go over here.

The point is: are you still using a fixed phone with a cord? Probably not. Chances are good that you don’t even have a landline no more, only a cell phone.

Your network desperately needs love if you’re still using a protocol that’s been out there since 1984.

We cannot hold technology evolution forever back for the sake of interoperability.

SMB 2.0 was released with Windows Vista in 2006, bringing about another boost in performance and efficiency. SMB 2.0 could deliver data much faster than SMBv1, thanks to various optimizations (such as a reduced number of commands and subcommands).
SMB 2.1 came out with Windows 7, continuing to improve the outstanding inefficiencies of the previous version. SMB 2.1 reduced protocol overhead by minimizing the amount of data exchanged between client and server, improved bandwidth efficiency, and delivered even better performance.
SMB 3.0 was introduced with Windows 8 with more updates and fixes. The most notable improvement SMB 3.0 brought was enhanced security — this protocol version was the first to support end-to-end encryption.

Nice history! There was a version change that extended the maximum file length past 2GB (32-bit signed value, doh!), I remember having to update the SMB client on the Xbox 360 for that. It was around 2007.

Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.

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