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Dave, interesting new information there, especially about not getting on the wrong side of hackers!

I don’t use S2 let alone the new app, I use and will use only S1, therefore SMB 1 for music play. It works fine today, and I expect that to not change.

The thing about banking is news to me. Are you suggesting that using my Mac to do online banking via WiFi/internet is risky generally, or more so to those that use SMB1 somewhere? 

I don't care about the other risk, about photos being seen or music being destroyed. There is no personal information on the WD, no passwords, nothing.

Was just about to heavily invest into am Arc-Soundbar, a sub and two Era 300 speakers. Am glad that I’ve not done it yet. Not supporting NAS drives and if it is only on a temporary basis is a no go. Will look for alternatives. I’m sorry Sonos, but these kind of decisions will kill your business

They support music from your NAS.  It needs to be smbv2/3. They don’t support search, indexing

your music or adding your NAS drive share atm. 

From what I’ve read when the App updates it will break your S1 system :(

WiFi is the risk i.e. risky generally - WiFi isn’t very secure - especially nowadays where wifi access points have greater range - so more potential for bad people to hack into your WiFi. In order  of most secure to least secure:

Mobile phone signal for internet

Wired internet connection

WifFi internet connection

Internet Cafe/Public Library etc - basically anywhere where multiple people will use a PC/mac

Banking security is very good - it’s all about the weakest link. A number of years ago I was in the queue for customer services in a bank and overheard the lady infront discussing missing funds with the customer services person. The lady used her ipad via wifi (of course), and lived in a block of flats - someone had hacked her wifi and stolen funds so it really does happen. WiFi ranges are so large nowadays there are more people around you that could potentially hack you.

If you do have to use WiFi - then ensure you have the WiFi (on your access point/router) set to the highest security and use strong passwords/wifi keys, which in essence means those that make no sense and are impossible to remember - after all you only need to use the WiFI password once per device when you initially connect, and the mac (phone, pc etc) will then remember it.

Generally, and someone may shout me down on this statement - Apple equipment is more secure than windows

I agree - Like all tech these days - if you have modern kit (i.e. within the last 5 years or so) it will more than likely be a breeze to setup and work perfectly

@DaveS00 Thanks for all that. I am getting a sense that use of SMB 1 that I use via the S1 app by itself is not making the overall environment riskier if one uses the precautions of good practices of the kind you have suggested.

Banks/Credit card companies in India use a 2 factor set up by insisting on the entering of an OTP sent to the registered mobile number for every transaction, so that is something I also rely on.

It should not, I am pretty sure. The only way to move to the diabolical App for existing users is via the S2 app. I do not have that app on my phone, S1 is a different app and updates to that will not move it out of S1. 

I have now used S1 since 2020, and have never approached an inadvertent move to S2 via an update to S1 because I have never downloaded S2.

Just to be safe, I have stopped auto updates even to S1, and at home no one else is interested in Sonos to mess up things by their tinkering.

S1/SMB 1 rules, as far as I am concerned.

The Sonos community somehow implying that SMB1 needs to be depreciated, on a LAN, because it could get hacked, is just the bees’ knees of all fudd this decade. 🤣

Sonos should have started warning about depreciated support for SMB1 for a year or more and then pulled the plug.  The way they did it here, while insinuating that they’re doing you a favor is some impressive moxie.

Unfortunately, there were long running threads here about the security issues in SMB 1, with some very passionate preachers of doom and gloom drowning out the reasonable takes.  Also, there were some suspect web sites who lumped all the possible security issues, including SMB 1, into the same pile of a few users who left their routers open to the entire world and had their Sonos systems hacked to play scary music. 

To this day, I’ve never heard of a single Sonos user who had any problems due to using SMB 1, never mind something which would qualify as a security breach.  But in this day of social media, he who yells the loudest gets the attention.

That what my Mum was using, USB stick in router, music plays on Sonos speakers no issues. She loved it, select Bach, select shuffle and hours and hours of classical Bach, in multiple rooms, in single rooms, loved it.

All ruined by the “we didn’t ask for update”. So much so, the 9 month old Sonos speakers were taken back to retailer and refunded as no longer worked in the way they were purchased for.