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Contributor I
December 11, 2024

Loss of Calm Integration in January 2025

  • December 11, 2024
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I just received an email that Calm integration with Sonos will end. This is a big loss, as my whole family uses this. We will definitely cancel our Calm subscription, but it also is a blow for Sonos. Very unfortunate that this happened after being on Sonos for many years. 

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Lyricist I
December 12, 2024

I received the same thing. And we just signed up for a Calm Lifetime back Friday deal. We use it is. All rooms. Calm on Sonos is our bedtime routine. I don’t want to airplay I want to control it like I do now. I guess I will have to get creative.  

Airgetlam
December 12, 2024

Unfortunately, Sonos has no financial agreement with Calm, merely a distribution agreement. It’s up to Calm if they choose not to maintain the API and servers necessary to support Sonos. It’s certainly a distressing thing, as I’ve been a non-paying member of Calm for years. Which means I may be part of the issue, not paying for the source, albeit it fairly restricted as to what Calm offers.

I hope you’ve expressed your concerns to Calm. Sonos has no part in this decision, if I read the Sonos partners page properly, as well as the Sonos financials. 

Bruce
Lyricist II
December 12, 2024

This is completely unacceptable... I use this app integration everyday, on multiple speakers. I also just bought a lifetime subscription to Calm, and it was only because it integrated into my Sonos system! Why the hell would they end integration? We need to create an intense pressure campaign to barrage Calm and get them to keep the integration going. 

Airgetlam
December 12, 2024

While I agree, I’ve never seen a rep from Calm here in the Sonos boards.

Bruce
106rallye
December 12, 2024

Sonos does seem to have lost a few music services recently. Wonder why? Does Sonos make it harder for services to keep up?

controlav
Lead Maestro
December 12, 2024

Sonos does seem to have lost a few music services recently. Wonder why? Does Sonos make it harder for services to keep up?

There have been some changes in requirements for the new app, but they don’t seem onerous to me. However, they do require actual work, and if a supplier doesn’t have the cycles (or the expertise - maybe they laid off the Sonos-SMAPI dude?) then pulling it is easier than updating it.

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Airgetlam
December 12, 2024

Certainly a possibility. And it feels as though there is a general ‘belt tightening’ in tech right now.

But the contrast, that I know nothing about, is the loss of associated customers. I can see some percentage of ‘I listen only on Sonos’ folks to stop paying for the source, since it’s no longer available. How that equates to ‘we need to keep a SMAPI specialist on hand’ is unclear to me. 

In a lot of ways, I consider Sonos to be like a TV. It ‘shows’ what is fed to it. It the streamer (the channel) wants to shut down, and not provide a channel to the TV, that’s really not the responsibility of the TV manufacturer. They’re still making the TV. As Sonos continues to make their speakers and system. 

 

Bruce
Chad6375821
Lyricist I
December 12, 2024

This was posted on Google. 
 

Sonos did not actively "cancel" Calm, but rather the integration between the two platforms ended because Calm decided to discontinue the necessary API and server support needed to maintain the connection with Sonos, likely due to a lack of financial agreement or strategic alignment between the two companies; meaning users can no longer access Calm content directly through the Sonos app. 

Contributor I
December 13, 2024

I have expressed my disappointment directly to Calm. I would urge others to do the same.

The email is support@calmhelp.zendesk.com

jgatie
December 13, 2024

This was posted on Google. 
 

Sonos did not actively "cancel" Calm, but rather the integration between the two platforms ended because Calm decided to discontinue the necessary API and server support needed to maintain the connection with Sonos, likely due to a lack of financial agreement or strategic alignment between the two companies; meaning users can no longer access Calm content directly through the Sonos app. 

 

This speculation is incorrect. Sonos has never had any financial agreements with any music services.  Incorporation into Sonos is open to any music services who wishes to participate, and it is free of charge.  There is a level of effort from the music partner to develop and maintain their SMAPI interface, which may be the issue here.