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Enthusiast I
April 23, 2024

Further sidelining of NAS Music Library in new Sonos App??

  • April 23, 2024
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I can’t see any mention of a (NAS) Music Library in the promotional content for the new Sonos App. There is plenty of mention of “favourite Music Services” though.

Please please tell me that, unlike the new search, support for NAS music libraries is not being further sidelined? This is one of the things that drew me to Sonos in the first place (in 2008 FYI).

Joel

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106rallye
April 29, 2024

Since most messages here are about people owning a NAS that needs very specific commands to allow SMBv1 because of the exact same safety concerns Sonos voices in the update message, I had not realised there are people still using NAS device that only do SMBv1.

buzz
Grand Maestro
April 29, 2024

Nome NAS drives require jumping through a lot of hoops in order to re-enable SMBv1.

Bumper
April 29, 2024

Since most messages here are about people owning a NAS that needs very specific commands to allow SMBv1 because of the exact same safety concerns Sonos voices in the update message, I had not realised there are people still using NAS device that only do SMBv1.

Thread below provides some context for the Sonos bug that Ninjabob describes above. 
 

 

Lyricist II
April 29, 2024

I have my 40 Gb music library on my Dell laptop that stays in the house all the time. The message I got was similar to the ones already posted but mine said that the support for having the library on a PC (with the S2 controller) was being withdrawn because of security risks and that I would have to go to a NAS drive with SMBv2 or SMBv3. I didn’t think to capture the screen :-(

I just spoke with Sonos Support and the person I spoke to had to go and ask somebody else who also seemed not to have all the information. Something was said about it being discontinued and I would have to use the “Web App” that was going to be announced next week? He didn’t want to say any more about it; but I just got an email from him that said “So after the update you will still be able to use the Music Library stored on your laptop by using the desktop app that you already have”.

So, not quite sure what is going on.

melvimbe
April 29, 2024

Although I agree that both SMBv1 and HTTP protocols are less secure than their successor technologies, the decision to use them rests with the customer and not with Sonos.  The use of SMBv1 poses no risk to Sonos, only to me, and that’s my decision.  Sonos is not the judge, jury, and executioner of how I choose to access my own music via my Sonos system in my own home.

 

Unless Sonos can somehow keep these unsecure protocols enabled without actually supporting them, I don’t see how that work exactly.  If the feature is there, Sonos sort of has to guarantee that it works as described and doesn’t pose a risk to your system.  They would also need to provide bug support if some issues is found.  So, as much as you might feel that it isn’t Sonos responsibility, it may very well be.

That said, the fact that it remains enabled on S1 makes me wonder if S2 isn’t going to remove the feature, but they won’t provide any support for it.  Again, I’m not sure if they can do that realistically and legally.

Danny
Chromatic Producer I
April 29, 2024

A lot of people use their routers with a usb drive plugged in. Most of these routers only support SMBv1. I have been using this method for 15yrs. I recently set up a system for a friend who has the latest EE router that I think only does SMBv1. Having spent circa £2500 on Sonos Gear he is going to be delighted when I tell him his library is not going to work after the May "upgrade".

busy trying to edit the queue
April 29, 2024

 

So, not quite sure what is going on.

Is anybody sure?!

Local Superstar
April 29, 2024

How are Sonos legal obligations for S2 different to what they already declare to be the case in S1 - where it's basically use at your own risk etc.?  Has the reason for some users needing to activate SMBv1 on their S2 systems been explained before?   Hopefully it is understood (and resolved if this change is implemented) or there could be many more people affected who aren't currently.

Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
April 30, 2024

Worst case for someone on an SMB1 only NAS would be having to add an SMB1 to SMB 2 and/or 3 gateway. Not rocket science and a cheap Pi Zero will serve well.

This also works well for sharing NFS to Sonos.

Raspberry Pi SMB v1 Gateway to Sonos

https://stan-miller.livejournal.com/357.html

 

Enthusiast I
May 2, 2024

Gosh, I just logged in to see if there’d been any replies to my original post… seems I kicked the hornets nest somewhat!

As a user of Sonos since 2008 and with a large library ripped to FLAC, I find it staggering that Sonos almost expects me to have some kind of knowledge of SMBx in order to continue making informed decisions about the continuation of use of their products. So much for a simple user experience that “works flawlessly out of the box”.

Shame.