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Contributor I
August 7, 2024

Downgrade to S1

  • August 7, 2024
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The current version of the S2 app includes the capability to downgrade to S1. Go to “help and support” and you'll find it.

Your products have to be downgraded one by one, and they need to be 2020 or earlier.

I recently downgraded my two Play 3 speakers to S1 and now all the features are back and the response is instant, as it should be.

Simply reset your products to factory settings, then follow the instructions on the S2 app.

Once that is done, install the S1 app and create your Sonos system.

If you use the PC app as well, uninstall S2 using Windows Control Panel and download and install the S1 app in its place. It will then find your downgraded Sonos S1 system and connect to it. Everything then works as it should.

A note for those of you who use Samba on Linux to share your music library, if you use Samba version 4, you need to add two settings to your ‘sub.conf’ file, then restart ‘smbd’ and ‘nmbd’.

The settings are:

server min protocol = NT1

client min protocol = NT1

Your S1 system will then map the share and index the library.

If you have your library on a Windows machine, you don't have to concern yourself with that.

Hope this helps people.

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34 replies

Enthusiast II
August 7, 2024

That sounds like a very good option, although that means I’d need to stick my new Era 100 pair back in their boxes and pull my old Play1 pair out of the closet again. 

Could you color by numbers for the slower kids like me? How exactly do I ‘reset to factory settings’ and ‘create my Sonos system,’ step by step? I’d need somebody to hold my hand and walk me through that, I think.

Would this mean Sonos playlists would reappear and be fully functional again? Because that’s what I’ve been missing all this time.

Headliner I
August 7, 2024

So where are all the positive responses to having the ability to downgrade from S2 to S1, with so many thousands of requests for this specific functionality?

agbrowneAuthor
Contributor I
August 7, 2024

Chambolle,

Search the Internet for how to reset Sonos products to factory settings. The Sonos website tells you how to do it.

When you reset a device, you will lose all your Sonos playlists etc, but stuff on things like Spotify or Deezer won't be affected.

You can try the process on newer items and see if it works, but if it doesn't, then you'll have to use the S2 app for the newer ones and the S1 app for the older ones

The Sonos app will walk you through creating your system.

agbrowneAuthor
Contributor I
August 7, 2024

So where are all the positive responses to having the ability to downgrade from S2 to S1, with so many thousands of requests for this specific functionality?

I only posted it half an hour ago! Give it a chance!

Prodigy III
August 7, 2024

So where are all the positive responses to having the ability to downgrade from S2 to S1, with so many thousands of requests for this specific functionality?

I only posted it half an hour ago! Give it a chance!

I don’t think you were the first to reveal this functionality in the update… ;)

Enthusiast II
August 7, 2024

@agbrowne: Now I’m absolutely certain I don’t want to perform this ‘downgrade if, as you say, ‘you will lose all your Sonos playlists, etc.’

The one thing I’m most concerned about right now is that my Sonos playlists vanished the moment the new app weaseled it’s way into my ipad and iphone. Of necessity I need to await the promised future return of Sonos playlists and ‘queue editing’ in September or October. Right now, at least I do have access to my playlists via phonos+ even if I cannot modify and resave existing playlists or create and save new ones.

Unfortunately, that downgrade option is not a one size fits all solution.

 

agbrowneAuthor
Contributor I
August 7, 2024

@agbrowne: Now I’m absolutely certain I don’t want to perform this ‘downgrade if, as you say, ‘you will lose all your Sonos playlists, etc.’

The one thing I’m most concerned about right now is that my Sonos playlists vanished the moment the new app weaseled it’s way into my ipad and iphone. Of necessity I need to await the promised future return of Sonos playlists and ‘queue editing’ in September or October. Right now, at least I do have access to my playlists via phonos+ even if I cannot modify and resave existing playlists or create and save new ones.

Unfortunately, that downgrade option is not a one size fits all solution.

 

Your Sonos playlists are gone forever I'm afraid.

You might as well do the downgrade. It will get rid of all the latency of the S2 system.

agbrowneAuthor
Contributor I
August 7, 2024

So where are all the positive responses to having the ability to downgrade from S2 to S1, with so many thousands of requests for this specific functionality?

I only posted it half an hour ago! Give it a chance!

I don’t think you were the first to reveal this functionality in the update… ;)

Maybe not, but I have explained it.

Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
August 7, 2024
MoPac
Headliner III
August 7, 2024

Chambolle:

 You could try SonoSaver for Windows PC to backup your Sonos Playlists.  That is if you have a Windows PC.  I would test first to see if the functions Backup / Restore in SonoSaver work as expected.  Works well here.

 I think the app Phonos Plus ( 99 cents for Plus ) also can backup Sonos Playlists, but I only just got it and have not tried that feature.