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Contributor I
Feb 21, 2024 11:53 AM UTC

Discrepancy between Folder View and Artist View

I keep my music library on a NAS device. I have many albums on there that were ripped from vinyl LPs. As a result the track names don’t include numbers that are needed to ensure that when I play an album it plays in the order the artist intended. Recently I have started to edit the track names to include numbers at the beginning - just as they are when ripped from a CD. 

 

My problem is that the changes I have made are not appearing in the music library. If I look at the Folders view in the library all is well and my changes are there. If I navigate via Artist > Album > Tracks nothing has changed and when I play the album it still plays in alphabetical order. 

 

What do I need to do to reflect the new track names in the library? I have tried deleting the share and re-adding it which had no effect. I have tinkered with the setting for track ordering, also to no effect. What else can I try?

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ratty
Feb 21, 2024 12:40 PM UTC

Try editing the metadata correctly. Put the track number in the TRACK field, not prepended on the TITLE.

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Contributor I
Feb 21, 2024 12:55 PM UTC

How do I do that? I don’t see any option in either the Sonos controller or in the Apple Finder. Is there somewhere else?

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106rallye
Feb 21, 2024 1:03 PM UTC

You need to edit the metadata in the music file with a program like this: Mp3tag - the universal Tag Editor (ID3v2, MP4, OGG, FLAC, ...)

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Contributor I
Feb 21, 2024 2:55 PM UTC

Update. I found a workaround to update the track numbers on one of the albums. Previously those fields were empty. I updated the files on the NAS and re-indexed the Sonos library. No joy. The folders view shows the updated files but the “normal” navigation still has the tracks in alphabetical order, even when I switch the option to order folders by track number. 

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ratty
Feb 21, 2024 3:06 PM UTC

The Folders view options have no effect on the ordering in other views.

Are you sure you’re viewing the album container via the Artists view and artist>album, or alternatively via the Albums view? There should be track numbers down the left margin. If you view via artist>All there are no track numbers and the tracks are in alphabetical order.

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Contributor I
Feb 21, 2024 3:29 PM UTC
This is the album displayed in the Folder view
 
And this is how it appears when I follow Artist > Album

 

 

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ratty
Feb 21, 2024 3:36 PM UTC

It’s not recognising anything in the metadata as the track number. I don’t know what ‘workaround’ you used in an attempt to update the track numbers, but I suggest you follow @106rallye‘s suggestion and use a sensible tag editor.

One other thing: does your NAS have a ‘recycle bin’ folder that could potentially be included in the Sonos library path? It’s not unknown for pre-edit versions of files to end up in such a place, and if detected first on an index scan these would take precedence.

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Contributor I
Feb 22, 2024 8:17 AM UTC

Yes, I have seen that suggestion in other places. There isn’t an obvious recycle bin on the NAS but I am going to dig further into the idea. It makes sense as folders that are completely deleted on the face of it still appear in the Sonos library artist>album>track display. And the tracks in them still play.

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Contributor I
Feb 26, 2024 12:58 PM UTC

It looks like the recycle bin suggestion is correct. It’s well hidden :) but it’s there. I have switched it off and started to re indexed my library. Fingers crossed.

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Contributor I
Feb 28, 2024 3:03 PM UTC

Well, the saga continues. I found the option in the Buffalo NAS to disable the recycle bin but it made no difference. I can’t find the recycle bin though. It doesn’t show up in the Finder. But, on the assumption that it’s still lurking there somewhere I nuked the entire Music folder and reloaded it from the files on my Mac. No joy. The folder view in Sonos all looks good but the music library artist>album view still shows everything as it was. In parallel to this line of attack I also got a metadata editor and checked that the metadata was correct in some of the albums. Makes no difference.

My conclusion is that Sonos is holding data about my music library as it was before I started trying to fix it and that’s what it is using to create the artist>album view. BTW I also tried deleting the controller from my Mac and reinstalling it. It came up already configured which means that there is some configuration data on my Mac that I can’t see (yet). 

In a way I am quite enjoying this but it’s not exactly an endorsement of Sonos’s user friendliness.

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