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Enthusiast II
May 15, 2024
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Alternative to Sonos

  • May 15, 2024
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I sent this to the Sonos CEO email, as this seems to be the only support option available. My main point is to find a solution on the bad situation I find myself in, with the non-functioning new app.

Anyone else, if not the CEO, is welcome to give their suggestions and comments, that may help me on the way. Thanks.

 

“Dear Sonos,

You have done something completely absurd, as you are aware of, by killing off a functioning app and replacing it with one that has close to no functions - a work in progress, at best, or a disaster of an app, when speaking realistically.

After some years without Sonos for my part, since you decided to kill off all older devices, threatening that if I didn't replace them with new ones I would be at risk of you sending out software updates at any time that would render my system useless, I decided to give you a chance again, ordering a Port.

The day after receiving this new device, before I had even managed to connect it and start using it, came this infamous app update.

I have one - one - purpose of owning a Sonos system: I want a player for the music I have in my own collection. CDs that I have copied to a local SAN and are playing from there.

This is hardly possible now. I was lucky to get the old desktop app before you stopped access to it, so that I at least in that app can make playlists - which most of the time are visible and playable from the mobile app.

In the mobile app, it happens from time to time that "My music" appears - and when it does, it sometimes stay long enough for me to see the music collection - in a somewhat useless form, as all contributing artists and their mother and neighbors seem to be in the list that, therefore, becomes extremely long - and since it is not searchable, I can effectively see only the first few letters of the alphabet. When it works at all, that is.

And what can I do with that music overview? I can pick one tune. Or one album. And play it directly. That's it.

If I pick an album, I cannot see the tunes on it in the queue, which is called empty, even though the system does play song after song until that album is over.

If I try with the web app, I can always see My music, and I can pick an artist, if I want - but wanting this means accepting that all tunes by that artist will be played either alphabetically or in random order (if I push that button). I cannot get them played in the order they are on the albums.

So, back to the old desktop app that I now do not dare to upgrade, even though it constantly asks me to do so: There, I can make playlists of albums that will be played in the correct order.

You want so much that I upgrade that app, but what will come out of it? I expect nothing good.

My take on all this is that you have ruined my joy of ownership of that new thing, the Port, like you previously did with the older devices I had. It was wrong of me to give you another chance. You have not proved worthy of that.

So, apart from not buying any more devices from Sonos, due to this failure of delivering what you sold me, I will again start looking for an alternative. 

You are in general lucky, in that the competition is very poor. I tried out Yamaha's MusicCast and Denon's Heos, and where Yamaha had great hardware, they had a terrible app. Where Denon had a useful app, they had malfunctioning hardware. Sonos used to be the combination of good hardware and software, even though you several times have shown a lack of sense of fair business, but now you have the most miserable app of them all, making it impossible to utilize the hardware, so it no longer matters if that is good or bad.

I hope that there is a fourth or a fifth player on the market that I can find and shift to. And since you obviously do not want me as a customer (making my ownership experience as miserable as possible), you probably wouldn't mind that I move to a competitor? 

So, please advise on who is providing a system for playing music that actually works.”

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Best answer by wayneo123

Given that this is not the first time sonos has shown questionable customer service (S1 - S2 precedent), there is no way I am remaining in their eco system.

 

I have therefore started the process of changing my hardware.

A sonos amp (paired with monitor audio silver 100s) has been replaced with a pair KEF LSII speakers (active with streaming built in) which I am very pleased with and were cheaper than the original pairing.

Currently looking at replacing my other amp with a WiiM amp or a Bluesound Powernode.

The 2 ports I have will be replaced with a Bluesound node or WiiM Pro Plus.

All of the devices in question are Roon Ready and I have taken out a Roon subscription (which to be honest is a bit on the pricey side) but it will give me a unified point of entry for any of the hardware I choose. That way I am not tied to any hardware vendor. Should any them act in the reprehensible way that sonos have.

Unfortunately I will still have my arc I use in the bedroom. It’s wall hung and the room has just been decorated otherwise I would have probably replaced it with KEF LS50’s given how good their smaller siblings are.

 

105 replies

Prodigy III
June 23, 2024

Hi everybody that is Manuel from France , since the last version has been installed , it was impossible for me to listen music All my android 3 devices are blocked and so i could n’t run the app ; After some hours to debugged by trying install of older versions (no possible) . I decide to switch off that ****. And i’ve search for an alternative. First i found one which is functional  and i installed it on my laptop . It’s working fine under linux the name of that app is sonos-controller-unofficial (github source). And i’m happy to get music now. I decide to search also an app under Android to replace definitively the sonos app which goes bad and low quality since the first version.

Manuel - if you’re running Linux anyway then you should be able to find the app called Noson in all of the main repositories.

It’s a free app by Jean-Luc Barriere, and it has been in existence since 2015. It is maintained, and it works well, though with very little multilingual help (understandable - it’s built by just one person, not a corporation).

June 27, 2024

Replaced my Sonos play 1 with a Denon Home 150 and I am quite happy with it. 

The sound quality is excellent, allthough tbh I like the Sonos sound better. 

The Denon does have some great features that Sonos has not
1) speaker is recognized immediately
2) volume control works without delay
3) When you click on a song, it plays immediately

 

I was able to get a decent price for the Play 1. My other speakers are on auction sites now.
A decade long I have enjoyed the Sonos system, but this will come to an end within the next few weeks.

Why Sonos decided to ruin their system remains a mystery to me.
Hope for the people that stay true to Sonos, that things will improve on the short term.

Goodbye
 

Prodigy III
June 27, 2024

Why Sonos decided to ruin their system remains a mystery to me.
 

The reason is pretty simple - Sonos management were so desperate to release a new product (some rather ordinary headphones) that they gambled on forcing untested and unready software on their entire existing customer base.

The gamble was an appalling failure of judgement, and IMO they will pay a price. My guess is that they will lose a lot more customers from dissatisfaction than they will gain by selling those headphones.

jorwinAuthor
Enthusiast II
June 29, 2024

Interesting alternatives. I'm just about to sell my Sonos bricks and the Amazon Echo looks good. 

Question for the WiiM crowd - can you use it without Plex? And can you link to any speakers? 

All WiiM devices speak DLNA and UPnP, so they are compatible with a good variety of music players. Check out Audirvana, a beautiful player with a focus on high audio quality with excellent local library support (as well as lossless streaming from Deezer and others).

Some months back I added a WiiM Mini to my Sonos Five, creating a bi-lingual (Sonos + DLNA) speaker … works like a champ!

The WiiM devices come with a quite attractive and useful app, but adding Roon to the mix makes it all more than just attractive - it becomes outright beautiful! A pleasant user experience with great sound and multi-room features that can even be mixed with products of other brands.

 

Recommended!

Lyricist III
July 25, 2024

Why Sonos decided to ruin their system remains a mystery to me.
 

The reason is pretty simple - Sonos management were so desperate to release a new product (some rather ordinary headphones) that they gambled on forcing untested and unready software on their entire existing customer base.

The gamble was an appalling failure of judgement, and IMO they will pay a price. My guess is that they will lose a lot more customers from dissatisfaction than they will gain by selling those headphones.

 

I think I disagree with this assessment.  They could have updated a few graphics and rolled out a new release and everyone would have been happy.  But to purposely remove some functionality and hobble other functionality speaks of something different. 

I believe they have an agenda here and they want a certain segment of the customer base out of the picture.   IMO they are dumb but I don’t think they’re stupid.  Time will tell.  Maybe they are both dumb and stupid. 

 

Terry Bradshaw once said “I may be dumb but I’m not stupid” 

 

Prodigy III
July 25, 2024

Utter nonsense.

Contributor I
July 26, 2024

Just bought my second Wiim

I know lots here vowing to ditch their systems - maybe some will some wont

Slowly but surely, I am replacing the whole thing

 

Lyricist I
August 13, 2024

Truly the worst app experience I’ve ever had. And I’m a super smart, reasonable and humble person. Capable and competent, a little saucy, and totally humble person who just can’t get Sonos to work for him no matter what his little heart desires. I used to love Sonos. Now it’s barely useable and I’m opting to just listen to music on my phone most days. Where can a good man find succor? 

Not in Sonos...

bennettharding
Lyricist I
August 27, 2024

So, please advise on who is providing a system for playing music that actually works.”

Just set up ‘Connect Spotify’, it found all devices, including Sonos Amps, & the GUI is pretty good. Plays all of my ‘Library’ from our servers here as well :-):

Flowers Name

 

Thanks for your Suggestion!

Lyricist III
September 24, 2024

Let’s face it, saying we’re going to ditch Sonos sounds like all the people who said they would ditch Twitter. Are we really going to switch to the Threads equivalent of speakers?

I 100% ditched Twitter long ago and never looked back.