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November 8, 2018

Why Sonos why??

  • November 8, 2018
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I am new to Sonos and this community forum. I recently bought 2 x Play 1's and the Beam. Before this I owned a Marantz set whit Monitor Audio RX speakers and this set (as every set) had the possibility to switch between 2.0 or 5.1... oh sorry I am to early.

But first in short about me, 44 years of age, wife / kid and happy #happydays. And decided to sell my Marantz set and buy the a Sonos set.... why you ask... we dont's play any CD, DVD or BR anymore and it is bulky in the living room (as the wife said).

So I bought two new Play-1 and a Beam and maybe.. new and unopened. I said maybe I will buy the Sub 2.0.... but during the setup I was surprised that I as a consumer can't decide where to place the two Play-1 in the front or in the rear. No Sonos want you to place them in the rear, no question about that (now I don't feel like buying the sub anymore). So yesterday evening I read some Topics about this matter in this community and I know now I am not the only one who is bothering this. Why on earth is someone else decided for me where to place my speakers in my own living room?! Since when is big brother watching me in my own living room?

But why do we buy Sonos or do Sonos want us to buy Sonos?? 1 - Music, 2 - Cinema, 3 - No wires, 4 - Lifestyle. For movies, ok it is a nice-to-have to have surround. But what if I don't want to use surround?! Because in my living room there is no space for surround speakers. My couch is against the wall and on my left side I have a table standing and on the right a large window. So no space left for surround speakers. And what if I want to listing to music?? Most of the time when I am listing to music I am sitting in my couch.... But do Sonos want me to seat between the surround speakers? Also when I want to play them loud? Yes Sonos said, you can select 'Full' in the app. for a better experience. Do you want to change my living room in a discotheque? Why Sonos why? I don't want to... it is my living room, my setup, my decision, my buy, my experience.

So during reading several topics yesterday evening in this community, about this matter, I want to say the following to Sonos.

Dear Sonos,

I am very happy whit your product I recently bought at a local shop. But would you be so kind to place an in-app function where I can select, if I prefer my other two speakers in front or rear? If would make this product more complete, and your product is all about lifestyle and choices, and now you are making this choice for me.

Hoping for positive feedback.

Best Regards,

Roger

PS - Pls make me buy the Sub 2.0
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    Stuart_W
    World-Class Superstar
    November 9, 2018
    Thx guys for all replies and support. Yesterday I connected the Beam and listing to all type of broadcasts and music. I know the philosophy behind a soundbar of Sonos, it is LCR. I think the Beam is great, it is very clear and has a wide range... when watching 'normal' television. And I watched a bit of Netflix after, here it misses some lows the mids and high's are again crystal clear, and the Beam produce a wide sound here. But after I listing to some music,..... it misses a lot of dynamic here. It sounds a bit canned and a lack of bass. So no I don't feel like this soundbar is going to replace a LR. But if I could set my two Play-1 in front and select it to fill up the bass the Beam is missing in music, because the Play-1 has a better bass performance... again I think this could work.

    Again I have the feeling that the focus of Sonos is fixed on watching movies as soon as you buy more.

    May I ask... when is the Playbar 2-gen going to be released? Untill then it is the Beam, but as soon the PB second gen is going to be released I have the feeling in selling the Beam.

    Sorry I don't want to whine in front of everybody, but I try to understand.


    Sorry but I don't think you understand how Dolby 5.1 works.

    5.1 means 1 centre speaker for speech, 1 left and right front speaker for foreground audio, 1 left and right REAR speaker for rear background audio and 1 Sub for bass. No matter where Sonos places it's speakers, or the user, the audio soundtrack is DESIGNED to work best with the speakers in the correct layout. As it happens the front left, centre and right are all in one unit so "have" to be in the correct place relative to the screen but you as the user obviously have the freedom to place the rear surrounds wherever you want. And whether or not you will find this satisfactory or not will depend on how you use the set-up, what audio signal you send it and how sensitive to the aural position of sounds intended to be behind you actually being in front of you. But you can certainly try it out.
    As for Play 1 having better bass performance than the Beam I couldn't say. What I can say is I have Playbar, Sub and Play 1 surrounds set to FULL for music and I think they do a very good job of music reproduction.

    As for a next gen Playbar/Beam having the facility you desire I'm afraid my view is, due to my comment above, that there simply won't be a "put the surrounds at the front" setting as I said before it's non-sensical
    Arc + Sub (Gen 1) + 2 x Play 1/ Stereo Play 3s/ Era 100 Stereo in Kitchen, One Stereo in Bedroom, Play 1 stereo pair in Study, Play 1in Bathroom, Sonos Move 2
    Smilja
    November 9, 2018
    @Mad Maze: Actually, the Sonos Amp would provide what you are looking for: discrete left/right channels, creating a phantom center for TV purposes.

    https://en.community.sonos.com/announcements-228985/introducing-sonos-amp-6812069
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    November 9, 2018
    @Mad Maze: Actually, the Sonos Amp would provide what you are looking for: discrete left/right channels, creating a phantom center for TV purposes.

    https://en.community.sonos.com/announcements-228985/introducing-sonos-amp-6812069
    This is the way I plan to go myself, FWIW.

    @Mad Maze. I still don't think you have grasped that you can already do what you want. If you configure the P:1s as surrounds it makes sense to put them behind you. But you don't have to configure your speakers that way, as we have all been trying to explain.
    Stuart_W
    World-Class Superstar
    November 9, 2018
    @Mad Maze: Actually, the Sonos Amp would provide what you are looking for: discrete left/right channels, creating a phantom center for TV purposes.

    https://en.community.sonos.com/announcements-228985/introducing-sonos-amp-6812069


    That's interesting but it's not using the Beam which is what the OP wants and also it's for those with non-Sonos speakers too.

    But thanks for the added detail of what the new Connect:Amp can do
    Arc + Sub (Gen 1) + 2 x Play 1/ Stereo Play 3s/ Era 100 Stereo in Kitchen, One Stereo in Bedroom, Play 1 stereo pair in Study, Play 1in Bathroom, Sonos Move 2
    Trending Lyricist I
    December 30, 2018
    First post here guys so go easy, I have read a lot on this site and think i've got it.

    I have a Beam hooked up to me LG E8 and it's brilliant, no dramas at all ... skeptical wife hasn't left it alone all day so now we want more. Not interested in 5.1 surround as room won't support it properly as we sit againt a wall and been there and done that. What we want is more punch for music so either add a sub or a couple of play ones but they would have to be at front.

    Like the first poster I want them left right against the wall either side of the TV to support the Beam in stereo. So would grouping them in Party mode be the answer or should we opt for the Sub and be done with it.

    The Beam is a lovely product but how well would the pricey Sub work with it.

    Thanks guys.
    Lyricist III
    January 10, 2019
    Hi! I have Playbar + Sub and the Sub is a great addition! My guess is it’s an even better boost for the Beam which has less base than the Playbar.