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Contributor I
October 28, 2015
Question

When is Echo Support coming?

  • October 28, 2015
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Hi Guys,

Let me start off by saying I love you guys. I have a Playbar, Play 5, Play 3, Connect, and am looking to complete my Playbar setup with a couple of Play 1's and a Sub soon.

I also have an Amazon Echo and it is awesome. In fact, it's a bit too awesome and I find myself asking Alexa to play music just because if I want to hear a song, all I have to do is ask; I don't have to bust out my phone. The problem is the speakers on the Echo are mediocre at best. I would much prefer the sound to come out of my Sonos system. With the "internet of things" really starting to take off - integration is going to become more and more important.

Amazon Echo has sort of a plugins-type interface called skills. https://developer.amazon.com/public/solutions/alexa/alexa-skills-kit/getting-started-guide
It would be amazing if you guys could create an skill for Sonos. Something like "Alexa, tell Sonos to play *playlist*." or music by _____ or x from pandora.

I've done some searching and this comes up on this forum a lot. I think it's time you started listening to your community. With skills you no longer need much help from Amazon so its on you to keep your customers happy. Please do not start your own voice recognition or anything silly like that. Stick to what you're great at. Just use what is already available and on the markets and integrate with them.

Thanks
-Collin
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    71 replies

    Lyricist II
    April 26, 2016
    Unless you own and have used Alexa (Echo) you may not get what Collin is saying. It is so wonderful just saying "Alexa, play the Beatles" and the Beatles play. If Amazon, or anyone else, comes up with a HiFi system along the lines of Sonos that is properly integrated with Alexa, I would drop Sonos like a hot potato.

    I have been using Sonos for 7 years, and love it, but Alexa is so good that I am willing to move from Sonos to get proper integration.
    chicks
    May 19, 2016
    When is Google Home support coming? Lol
    Lyricist I
    July 16, 2016
    Has anyone tried the Yonomi app with Alexa's Smart Home Skills? It seems like a good stop-gap until Sonos can get their act together and catch up.
    Lyricist I
    July 28, 2016
    I was using it but it's recently quit working intermittently. I've tried many fixes and nothing makes it work consistently anymore
    melvimbe
    July 28, 2016
    I installed the Yonomi app a couple days ago. I find it to be really limited as far as what it can do with Sonos, but definitely something to look into if you have echo and sonos. It's not going to be all you want, but it's a good stop gap till something better comes along.

    It's someone hard to describe how it works without getting too detailed. It will essentially setup each of your sonos units as a separate smart device that echo can see and command. You are limited to what you can do with the device though. Turn on, turn off, pause, mute, unmute, play a sound. What you cannot do (in this context anyway) is specify what song, playlist or service to play, or group rooms together. obviously, that makes it rather limited.

    However, you can get around the music select limitation by setting up a routine in advance. For example, I set up a routine to specifically play my daughter's playlist on the living room sonos at a specific volume and named it "Samantha". So you can now tell echo "Alexa, turn on Samantha" and it will follow the routine.

    An important factor in this is that Yonomi is not about controlling Sonos only as it can control your other smart home devices as well. So for example, I can add turning off the living room lights to the previously created "Samantha" routine. That's definitely something to consider if Sonos makes it's own skill. It's not just about voice control, but about automation as well.

    One other thing worth repeating is that Yonomi ties your smart phone so it is aware of additional events. For example, Yonomi sets the GPS location of your home, so when you arrive home, it knows this based on the gps and can automatically run a routine. I have set to having the living room sonos say "welcome home", turn on the light, and play Pandora Fleetwood mac station, but only between 8 am and 8 pm. It also is supposed to be able to run a routine when I start a phone call (mute the music) or end a phone call (unmute), but I haven't gotten that to run smoothly yet.

    Be aware though that if you already have a wink or some other hub on your network, and yonomi is going to cause some confusion. Alexa got confused when I asked it to turn off the kitchen light because it thought I had more then 1 of those...one kitchen light on wink, one kitchen light on yonomi. I had to rename to light on yonomi to avoid the confusion.

    So yes, yonomi is definitely worth a try in my opinion, but don't expect it to be the final solution.
    Danny
    Lyricist II
    July 29, 2016
    Unless you own and have used Alexa (Echo) you may not get what Collin is saying. It is so wonderful just saying "Alexa, play the Beatles" and the Beatles play. If Amazon, or anyone else, comes up with a HiFi system along the lines of Sonos that is properly integrated with Alexa, I would drop Sonos like a hot potato.

    I've been using a pair of Play:1s for the last year, and have been seriously thinking about upgrading to a pair of Play:5s to get a richer sound quality. But I got an Echo this week and — already — I can't "go back" to dealing with the mediocre—at best—user interface of the Sonos app to access my music.

    Alexa connects to all the music services I need (i.e., Spotify & Pandora, and you can now upload your own music to the Amazon Prime Music service). Who really needs the bajillion niche services Sonos offers? True, the sound quality of the Echo is even flatter than the Play:1s, but it's so convenient to use that I haven't used my Sonos system since Alexa showed up.

    Net net, it's only a matter of time before Amazon releases a high quality speaker that's Echo-compatible. So, it looks like a race to me. I've got a grand earmarked for a speaker upgrade, and will happily give it to Sonos for a pair of Play:5s if I can control them through Alexa. And I'll just as happily give it to Amazon if they bring a high quality Echo-compatible speaker to market before Sonos gets to that integration.
    chicks
    July 29, 2016
    I was using it but it's recently quit working intermittently. I've tried many fixes and nothing makes it work consistently anymore

    They just sent out an email about this today. I glanced at it but haven't had time to implement the fix they are documenting.
    Chris
    Lead Maestro
    July 29, 2016
    Lmower. An echo dot hooked to play5s gives you sonos and echo together now.
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    Contributor I
    July 30, 2016
    Chris, Thanks. I didn't realize the Play5s have line in. I have an Echo Dot, but hooked it to a Bose since none of the other Sonos components I have (playbar, sub, Play1s) have line ins.

    Once connected to the Play5, can the Play5 act as a source so you play that audio in other rooms as well?

    Also, I assume the same can be done with the Connect - true? I've been hesitant to pay $350 just to connect Echo Dot to Sonos.
    chicks
    July 30, 2016
    No need to wait any longer, just get into the Josh.ai beta. Sonos support is Standard.

    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2497539,00.asp

    Oh, you will need at least $10 grand, lol.