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Using Apple Music, how to enable "Autoplay Similar Songs" within Sonos App

Forum|Forum|5 years ago
January 19, 2021
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In iOS14 Apple added a new feature to “Autoplay Similar Tracks” when a playlist or queue is finished. Its supposed to continue to play similar music to what was on the playlist. Similar to Create a Station that does work (but is fairly buried in Sonos and Apple), but instead it kicks in at the end of an existing playlist vs. creating an unending playlist from scratch like Create Station does from a selected song.

See here https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208383

Apple show an infinity symbol on the player to control this feature.

Its supposed to be somewhat better than create a station as it has the context of the entire preceeding playlist when picking a new song, vs. a single song.

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Joe Show

Lyricist II

Have you read @controlav ‘s post above? This is something Apple would need to implement, not something Sonos can do.

But Sonos can tell Apple that people are begging for it 🙂

jgatie

But Sonos can tell Apple that people are begging for it 🙂

Seeing how Sonos doesn't have any financial relationship with Apple, besides licensing Airplay, which would only encourage not using the Sonos app, it is far more effective for Apple Music subscribers to make the request than to rely on Sonos to do it for you (not that they haven't already).

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Joe Show

Lyricist II

But Sonos can tell Apple that people are begging for it 🙂

Seeing how Sonos doesn't have any financial relationship with Apple, besides licensing Airplay, which would only encourage not using the Sonos app, it is far more effective for Apple Music subscribers to make the request than to rely on Sonos to do it for you (not that they haven't already).

How do you personally know for a fact that Sonos has no financial relationship with any other company? Besides, I personally know that when I’m using a vendor’s API, I have contacts with that vendor I can work with when something is not accessible within in the API that would be useful to my user base. Apple may or may not wish to open that feature in the API. Vendors don’t always want to open everything outside of their own tool offerings. But since they are locking folks out of Spatial via AirPlay, we’re faced with a compromise— using the Sonos app while missing some Apple features, or the Apple app while missing some Sonos features. Oh well.

jgatie

Once again, Sonos isn't using Apple's API. Apple is using Sonos' API, and this function is available in the Sonos API because other services use it.

As to the financial relationship, Sonos has stated many times, and it's part of their Music Partners program. Any service can be integrated into Sonos via their implementation in the Sonos Music API, and there is no cost to the service.

Airgetlam

Since Sonos is a public company, as is Apple, you can look at their financials.

FWIW, and to shortcut things, what @jgatie says is true.

Bruce

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Joe Show

Lyricist II

You’re reading two companies public financials and know exactly what deals they’ve made in every detail. And you’re enough into Sonos development details you know who’s using who’s API. Fantastic. Don’t care about that and not digging through company financials just to let a company know a feature is missing when a service that has that feature is used through their tool.

We are using the SONOS app and telling THEM we want a feature that’s missing when we use a service inside THEIR app. THEY should negotiate the details to make that happen without making excuses about who’s to blame.

Merry Christmas!

jgatie

You’re reading two companies public financials and know exactly what deals they’ve made in every detail. And you’re enough into Sonos development details you know who’s using who’s API. Fantastic. Don’t care about that and not digging through company financials just to let a company know a feature is missing when a service that has that feature is used through their tool.

We are using the SONOS app and telling THEM we want a feature that’s missing when we use a service inside THEIR app. THEY should negotiate the details to make that happen without making excuses about who’s to blame.

Merry Christmas!

So you'd rather level blame at whom you think is at fault than direct your effort towards the company which is actually tasked to fix the problem? Good luck with that.

Oh and it's not too hard to see Apple is responsible. The Sonos development API is quite public:

https://docs.sonos.com/docs

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