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Enthusiast I
November 3, 2017

Take Heed Sonos Devs

  • November 3, 2017
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While you sit in your conference rooms and debate the 8.x app with corporate speak sentences like "They will get used to it" and "This happens every major upgrade" and "Scale-able, cross-platform modern blah blah blah.....".
One thing that has never happened before with my Sonos house happened last night. And it is important you realize the significance.

I had three couples over for drinks and I put on one of my playlists and then I turned the ipad over and placed it under my bar. I did it without thinking - it just seemed less distracting that way.

This morning i did think about it however. I had never done that before. I tend to hand off the Ipad and let guests marvel at my wonderful Sonos system. I let them pick music from the seemingly endless inventory of tunes from Google and Apple. Soon old songs are played that bring back great memories - people sing and some might even dance.
It almost always turns into a "So what is this Sonos thing?".

Last night. That did not happen.
The new interface is just confusing enough for new users that i have to give a tutorial I didn't feel like giving a tutorial.
The aesthetic is a bit too glaring and, in my opinion, not as attractive as it once was.

Your app is more than a tool. It is a showpiece. And we, the owners of Sonos dearly love to show it off. The speakers, yeah, they the Wow factor when the rich sound fills the house but when a new user touches the app and finds any song at the end of their fingertips, you can almost see the excitement in their eyes.

So while we can debate endlessly of 8.x being intuitive or not intuitive or 8.x being an evolutionary step forward or backward, one thing is a stone cold fact: six people did not fall in love with Sonos last night.

And THAT is something you should worry about.
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    chicks
    November 3, 2017
    Meanwhile, I’ve “shown” several recent guests just how simple it is to request virtually any song or album using only their voice, from across the room, playing in excellent HiFi quality. They’ve been quite impressed, to say the least.
    jgatie
    November 3, 2017
    Let me get this straight.

    Your "experience" didn't even attempt to test what their reaction was, you merely predetermined the outcome and simply didn't show them the app due to your own misgivings about the interface?

    To quote Dana Carvey's Church lady - "How conveeeenient!"

    So all we have here is a predetermined bias that may or may not be due to muscle memory and familiarity issues projected upon the expected reaction of your guests. And this bias caused you to never present them with the opportunity to give their actual opinions, and yet, you think this proves your case? To the outside eye, this tells me you weren't even confident enough in your own analysis to offer it up to the scrutiny of your guests, instead you decided their reaction for them.

    I think I speak for all when I reply - *YAWN*
    Renowned Enthusiast II
    November 3, 2017
    Meanwhile, I’ve “shown” several recent guests just how simple it is to request virtually any song or album using only their voice, from across the room, playing in excellent HiFi quality. They’ve been quite impressed, to say the least.

    Well, I can’t do that. I can request (by voice) lots of less than HIFI quality streams such as from Amazon I can’t request my own library, Deezer, or Tidal or any other HIFI quality streams. Spotify, when it arrives,will also be seriously lossy/compressed too.

    Just thought it worth making the distinction that the app is still more useful than voice — if you care about the source quality. And I agree that the app is woeful.

    Andrew
    Enthusiast I
    November 3, 2017
    Actually, in my experience i have tried with wife, 16 year old daughter, buddy who is a neighbor.

    Wife, now tells me what to play instead of using it.
    16 year old daughter isn't updating her phone
    Buddy. "Why did they do this?"

    So really my predetermined bias was: "You know, i'm not as proud of the software as I once was"
    The cool thing about my bias (as a customer) is it is mine.
    chicks
    November 3, 2017


    Well, I can’t do that. I can request (by voice) lots of less than HIFI quality streams such as from Amazon I can’t request my own library, Deezer, or Tidal or any other HIFI quality streams. Spotify, when it arrives,will also be seriously lossy/compressed too.


    Always amused by those who claim to “hear” vast differences in quality between modern AAC 256K streams and uncompressed.
    Enthusiast II
    November 3, 2017

    Always amused by those who claim to “hear” vast differences in quality between modern AAC 256K streams and uncompressed.


    These people obviously have dog ears. 😃
    BCM
    November 3, 2017
    You know the difference in the app, Michael. Your guests don't. Putting the iPad on the main music selection page functions exactly like the old apps did. Your bias ruined your good time, not Sonos.
    Renowned Enthusiast II
    November 3, 2017
    [quote=chicks]
    Always amused by those who claim to “hear” vast differences in quality between modern AAC 256K streams and uncompressed.


    I don’t claim to be an audiophile, and I don’t claim to hear vast differences.

    But what are you telling me, that you bought into Sonos but don’t care about the audio quality? Or that you genuinely believe heavily compressed music sounds the same as CD quality? If you are going to rely on compressed audio from now own, what’s the point of Sonos? Just buy half a dozen Echo Dots and plug the line out into your various speakers around the house. The quality will be the same, job done for a fraction of the cost.

    You are welcome to listen to whatever you want, but don’t use the words HIFI when talking about compressed music as it makes you sound foolish.

    Andrew
    chicks
    November 3, 2017
    Lol, thanks for the laugh.
    Prodigy II
    November 3, 2017
    Actually, in my experience i have tried with wife, 16 year old daughter, buddy who is a neighbor.

    Wife, now tells me what to play instead of using it.
    16 year old daughter isn't updating her phone
    Buddy. "Why did they do this?"

    So really my predetermined bias was: "You know, i'm not as proud of the software as I once was"
    The cool thing about my bias (as a customer) is it is mine.


    And...why?

    Because it is different.