Support for SMB v2 or v3

In 2010 Sonos didn't have any open source competition. Now not only do they have that competition, but it is better suited for my use case. I don't have to send Sonos any data... at all, I know exactly what network traffic it will generate and it uses modern protocols. Sorry Sonos but you have definitely lost a customer on this one. Your attempts to tell me SMB v1 is secure is complete garbage. Don't pee on my back and tell me it's raining.

I would highly recommend that others look into other options beyond Sonos. It is quite apparent that Sonos will not listen to it's user base. This thread is months old, and the other one is even older. You have had your opportunity to fix this and you refused.

The missing implementation of SMBv2 just gave me some headache when trying to connect my SONOS setup to the new NAS. I pushed this discussion to twitter. Maybe this helps to get a higher priority. Feel free to comment.

https://twitter.com/naml1t/status/935990595369230336

I got bit by this today, in an effort to improve security on my Synology NAS, I set SMB V2 as the minimum level. Everything was hunky dory except all of a sudden music library on the Sonos doesn't work. Foolish me, thinking my "premium" audio solution would support SMB levels from this millennium!

I got bit by this today, in an effort to improve security on my Synology NAS, I set SMB V2 as the minimum level. Everything was hunky dory except all of a sudden music library on the Sonos doesn't work. Foolish me, thinking my "premium" audio solution would support SMB levels from this millennium!

Yeah, it's ridiculous...

I agree with stanley, treat your music server for the Sonos as a disposable device. I use a Airport extreme base station (AEBS) with a 2TB 2.5" drive to host the data and it works fine. Every time I update my iTunes library, I use Carbon Copy Cloner to synchronize the Sonos source drive with my NAS. Doesn't take too long. It's my canary in the coalmine and if the data is lost, so what, it's just a copy.

With the above, I don't put *all* the data on my NAS at risk just to accommodate a outdated network stack by the only product that still needs it in my home. AFAIK, no NAS allows selective SMB authentication requirements on a per-share basis. Thus, as file sharing protocols go, the server security is only as good as the dumbest/most outdated file sharing protocol you allow it to use.

I agree with stanley, treat your music server for the Sonos as a disposable device. I use a Airport extreme base station (AEBS) with a 2TB 2.5" drive to host the data and it works fine. Every time I update my iTunes library, I use Carbon Copy Cloner to synchronize the Sonos source drive with my NAS. Doesn't take too long. It's my canary in the coalmine and if the data is lost, so what, it's just a copy.

With the above, I don't put *all* the data on my NAS at risk just to accommodate a outdated network stack by the only product that still needs it in my home. AFAIK, no NAS allows selective SMB authentication requirements on a per-share basis. Thus, as file sharing protocols go, the server security is only as good as the dumbest/most outdated file sharing protocol you allow it to use.

Unfortunately not a minimal configuration at all...
Sonos devices are considered minimalistic and aesthetically beautiful.

Unfortunately not a minimal configuration at all...
Sonos devices are considered minimalistic and aesthetically beautiful.

Hah. Making something that "just works" with minimal fuss was *exactly* what catapulted Apple to the top, just like Sonos. But under that pretty skin is the product of countless hours of hard work, big innovations. Consider how Wifi mesh networking between Sonos players 'just works', is easy to set up, and so on. This focus on intelligent infrastructure is precisely why Sonos became so popular and the leader in its niche.

Problem is, us "non-cloud" users are no longer attractive to the company because the sale has been made and the potential to monetize us vs. the "cloud" users is minimal. Our end of the market is saturated, the cloud end is still wide-open, at least in the eyes of management.

I don't expect them to update allowable SMB protocols unless forced to. Instead, the focus is on iOS, android applications and trying to stake out as much territory as possible while fighting for relevance in the face of the HomePod, Alexa pods, and whatever Google is bringing to the table.

Management is basically pushing us all to abandon Sonos and go for a more competitor that is happy to 'just' do home HiFi well. That day may come for me, in the meantime I have disabled all 'updates' from Sonos since I'm not a fan of having functionality taken away from me.

A Raspberry PI can be quite minimal and attractive if you buy a nice looking $10 or so case, and it doesn't need more than USB power, Ethernet and your data drive attached to it. You could possibly use a BIG SD card for your music and the operating system but that isn't the best long term solution. Easy to tuck a Pi behind your router or somewhere similar, out of sight and mind. All updates and administration (vary rarely needed) can be done via the Ethernet and VNC.

https://www.adafruit.com/product/2604

A Raspberry PI can be quite minimal and attractive if you buy a nice looking $10 or so case, and it doesn't need more than USB power, Ethernet and your data drive attached to it. You could possibly use a BIG SD card for your music and the operating system but that isn't the best long term solution. Easy to tuck a Pi behind your router or somewhere similar, out of sight and mind. All updates and administration (vary rarely needed) can be done via the Ethernet and VNC.

https://www.adafruit.com/product/2604


But the point is CONSUMER SALES will keep it alive, it's not good enough for tech geeks to love Sonos any more, competition is here and aiming at people who want to plug it in and use it.

I find it hard to believe this is still an issue... just like to wish SMB 3 a happy 15th birthday, and SMB 2 is now old enough to vote in most countries! Even version 4 would be of school age now...

This isn't a feature request, it's not even a keep up with the technology request, it's just a desire to keep it real and keep Sonos competitive, Mesh is now common, many competitors are snapping at the heals of Sonos the next couple of years will have competition like never before.

Isn't it about time 18 year old technology was implemented as standard!

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A fix would be great but at what cost? I'd sure hate to get a note from Sonos saying something like:

"We are now offering SMB v3 so the Windows 10 users will stop complaining about v1. Sadly that makes all your older Sonos gear obsolete, we are offering $100 per household to compensate you for all your Zone Players, older Connects and Play 5s becoming inoperative collector's items like your CR-100s."

If it was an easy fix I'm guessing Sonos would have done it long ago to end the moaning. Since it is then highly likely to be a painful fix, how much pain are you willing to undergo to get it?

I vote for minimal Pain and adding a Raspberry PI, WD LIve Drive or similar work around. Far more affordable for me than replacing a house full of older Sonos gear.