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Brandon_7
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Jun 8, 2020 12:59 PM UTC
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Split System S1/S2 -- can you move back?

If I upgrade my compatible speakers to S2, is it possible to then move them back to S1 (so they can be used again with my older units) or are they forever S2?  

 

And is it a headache to switch them back?  Ideally I’d like to be able to keep all my speakers on S1, and then on occasion use a few of them on S2 and then go back to S1.  My guess is that won’t be an easy process.

 

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    jgatie
    jgatie
    Jun 8, 2020 1:01 PM UTC

    Factory reset the S2 device, then choose to add it from S1 app.

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      sjw
      Local Superstar
      Jun 8, 2020 1:02 PM UTC

      Confirmed this morning that S1/S2 compatible speakers can be reset and moved between them.

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        Ken_Griffiths
        Ken_Griffiths
        Jun 8, 2020 1:06 PM UTC

        If I upgrade my compatible speakers to S2, is it possible to then move them back to S1 (so they can be used again with my older units) or are they forever S2?  

         

        And is it a headache to switch them back?  Ideally I’d like to be able to keep all my speakers on S1, and then on occasion use a few of them on S2 and then go back to S1.  My guess is that won’t be an easy process.

        You can apparently reset a (pre-May, non-legacy) S2 product and set it up on an 'existing’ S1 HH .. however it seems setting up a new S1 HH from such an S2 device (reset or otherwise) is not possible by a user.

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        Brandon_7Author
        Avid Contributor I
        Jun 8, 2020 1:18 PM UTC

        Thank you all!  Ken -- can you clarify what is a HH?

        Another question -- I currently run Deezer Elite -- this is an FLAC stream.  I was told by an audio salesman that while Sonos runs FLAC the audio you actually get is less than CD quality due to Sonos’ own compression. 

        1. Is this true?
        2. If so, does the broader band of S2 eliminate said compression?
        3. Would this elimination be immediately audible or do we need to await further updates?

        Or perhaps this question is big enough that I should start a separate topic!

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        jgatie
        jgatie
        Jun 8, 2020 1:28 PM UTC

        Thank you all!  Ken -- can you clarify what is a HH?

        Another question -- I currently run Deezer Elite -- this is an FLAC stream.  I was told by an audio salesman that while Sonos runs FLAC the audio you actually get is less than CD quality due to Sonos’ own compression. 

        1. Is this true?

         

        100% false. Sonos does no compression, it either plays the file, or it doesn’t.  The only compression used by Sonos is on the Line-In analog sources.  

        As an aside, never believe anything an audio salesman says.  They are notoriously unreliable and full of misinformation.  

         

         

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          Ken_Griffiths
          Ken_Griffiths
          Jun 8, 2020 1:29 PM UTC

          Thank you all!  Ken -- can you clarify what is a HH?

          Another question -- I currently run Deezer Elite -- this is an FLAC stream.  I was told by an audio salesman that while Sonos runs FLAC the audio you actually get is less than CD quality due to Sonos’ own compression. 

          1. Is this true?
          2. If so, does the broader band of S2 eliminate said compression?
          3. Would this elimination be immediately audible or do we need to await further updates?

          Or perhaps this question is big enough that I should start a separate topic!

          The Sonos supported audio formats/codecs S1 & S2 are mentioned in this link…

          https://support.sonos.com/s/article/79

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            Ken_Griffiths
            Ken_Griffiths
            Jun 8, 2020 1:46 PM UTC

            Brandon_7, 

            Sorry for the abbreviation.. S1 HH means a Sonos S1 Household (or ‘System’). Hope thst helps to clarify things a little better and sorry that my post wasn’t clear.👍

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            Smilja
            Smilja
            Jun 8, 2020 2:45 PM UTC

            From: https://support.sonos.com/s/article/4845?language=en_US

             

            Is this process reversible?

            No, once products have upgraded to S2, they cannot be downgraded back to S1 or added to an S1 system. Make sure you want to create a split system before following this process.

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            scorp
            Trending Lyricist I
            Jun 9, 2020 8:05 PM UTC

            Confirmed this morning that S1/S2 compatible speakers can be reset and moved between them.

            Has it been confirmed by Sonos, my understanding was that when you’d updated your products to work on the S2 app there was no going back ? 🤷‍♂️

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            jgatie
            jgatie
            Jun 9, 2020 8:22 PM UTC

            Has it been confirmed by Sonos, my understanding was that when you’d updated your products to work on the S2 app there was no going back ? 🤷‍♂️

             

            The official word from Sonos is there is no going back.  However, several posters, including the former mod and holder of the most posts ever on this forum, have performed a reset on an S2 device and then added it back into an S1 system.  

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