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Sonosnet + Ethernet = ???

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June 21, 2022
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Hi all,

Long time user, occasional poster. I'm toying with the idea of installing some Sonos speakers in the bar/workshop area at the bottom of my garden (roughly 15m from my house, and it seems heavily resistant to any wireless signals).

I currently have a relatively large Sonos set-up IN the house running on Sonosnet with a boost plugged into my router. I have tried just putting a speaker in the bar and hoping for the best, but alas, it is a no go.

My question is....if I were to run an ethernet cable from my router in the house to a network switch in the bar, then subsequently hardwire those speakers, would it work?? I get there's STP implications so the switch would need to support that, but beyond that is what I suggest feasible? I've done some searching on here, but nothing seems to answer my question specifically.

Thanks in advance, all!!

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Best answer by bockersjv

Mine works just that way. I went with writing all the speakers in the end mainly because it was easy work an 8 port switch. Has worked without issue since.
I also set up a wireless access point and that works fine too with the speakers running on WiFi.

bockersjvAnswer

Local Superstar

Mine works just that way. I went with writing all the speakers in the end mainly because it was easy work an 8 port switch. Has worked without issue since.
I also set up a wireless access point and that works fine too with the speakers running on WiFi.

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amun

My question is....if I were to run an ethernet cable from my router in the house to a network switch in the bar, then subsequently hardwire those speakers, would it work??

Yes

I get there's STP implications so the switch would need to support that…

Or just use a dumb switch

Another method (that Sonos don’t recommend) is to use EoP devices. I run the downstairs Sonos devices using these and find them much more reliable than any of the Sonos network facilities - others may differ. I use upstairs switch > upstairs EoP > downstairs EoP > downstairs switch > Sonos kit

If the outside building is powered from your main consumer unit, then it should work.

Vegeta_UKAuthor

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My question is....if I were to run an ethernet cable from my router in the house to a network switch in the bar, then subsequently hardwire those speakers, would it work??

Yes

I get there's STP implications so the switch would need to support that…

Or just use a dumb switch

Another method (that Sonos don’t recommend) is to use EoP devices. I run the downstairs Sonos devices using these and find them much more reliable than any of the Sonos network facilities - others may differ. I use upstairs switch > upstairs EoP > downstairs EoP > downstairs switch > Sonos kit

If the outside building is powered from your main consumer unit, then it should work.

Cheers for the responses so far. Stupid question probably, but what’s EoP…? 🤔

Playbar // Beam (G1) // Sub (G2) // 9 x Play:1 // 1 x One // 2 x Play:3 // 1 x Play:5 (G2) // Boost x 3 // Roam x 1//Ray x 1

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John B

EoP is EtherNet over Powerline. The data is carried along your electrical wiring. It isn’t supported by Sonos, and can be problematic. But for some people it seems to work well.

You would only need a simple unmanaged switch if you cabled, so no reason for STP to be an issue.

bockersjv

Local Superstar

I too have used EoP or Powerplug but whilst it worked Is was unreliable. Moving to a direct Ethernet cable was a lot better.

Smilja

You would only need a simple unmanaged switch if you cabled, so no reason for STP to be an issue.

A simple unmanaged switch that is IGMP snooping-enabled.

»And the world is like an apple whirling silently in space, Like the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind.« (›Windmills Of Your Mind‹ [1967]. Music by Michel Legrand ; English lyrics written by Alan & Marilyn Bergman)

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amun

Cheers for the responses so far. Stupid question probably, but what’s EoP…? 🤔

As @John B has responded, Ethernet over Power. You simply plug an adapter in near the source and connect it to your network with an ethernet cable and do the same at the target end. The benefit is that you don’t need to run long ethernet cable around the house or to outbuildings.

Personally, I find it very reliable - but apparently not everyone does. In our old place I had to drill through walls and ceilings to get a cable downstairs, so the EoP adapters took out all the hassle. It workd best in houses with modern electrics.

Generally, though, a cable is the best connection - but they can be quite fragile, and may need protection when using outdoors.

AjTrek1

Hi

One more consideration. If the speakers you are adding are not voice enabled (i.e. Fives, Play 5’s, One SL’s, Play 1’s or Play 3’s) you’ll want to add an Amazon Alexa Echo, Alexa Dot or Google Home device to enable voice control.

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Vegeta_UKAuthor

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Thanks to everyone for the responses. I realised within about 5 seconds of asking what EoP was (the fact that they weren’t referred to as powerline adapters threw me). Brainfart moment LOL. Sadly for me, they are not a practical solution as my house has a mix of old and new wiring, so the stability is spotty at best (already tested, I had a couple of redundant netgear ones in the loft gathering dust).

Just a question on the switch though...I thought it needed to support STP to stop loops happening and causing issues?? Have I misunderstood requirements? I thought I’d done decent research but IGMP snooping is not something I have come across…. :-s

Playbar // Beam (G1) // Sub (G2) // 9 x Play:1 // 1 x One // 2 x Play:3 // 1 x Play:5 (G2) // Boost x 3 // Roam x 1//Ray x 1

Smilja

@Vegeta_UK, You’d need a switch like this…

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-TL-SG108S-Ethernet-Wall-Mount-Protection/dp/B09PGWRVSL?th=1

https://community.fs.com/blog/what-is-igmp-snooping.html

»And the world is like an apple whirling silently in space, Like the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind.« (›Windmills Of Your Mind‹ [1967]. Music by Michel Legrand ; English lyrics written by Alan & Marilyn Bergman)

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