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DarwinOSX
May 28, 2021 5:09 PM UTC

also being used in a handoff mode (data flows direct from 3rd party “internet” source to audio/video output target, source device app retains control for pause/play and progress feedback)

 

From what I have read here, this is possible only via Apple hardware like Apple TV. 

When using voice with HomePods music is also streamed from the internet not your device.

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DarwinOSX
May 28, 2021 5:11 PM UTC

Looks like apple are opening up Airplay 2 to be able to stream up to 24/192 as long as your end point has a DAC that can recieve that. 

They are not doing that.  That is such significant change there would need to be an Airplay 3.  Apple actually documents Airplay 2 extremely well.

https://developer.apple.com/airplay/

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DarwinOSX
May 28, 2021 5:13 PM UTC

But I rarely use Apple Music because the native app still does not work with Sonos even after all these years.

 

It absolutely does and has for a long time.

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    Belly M
    Belly M
    May 28, 2021 5:14 PM UTC

    @DarwinOSX 

    i think you mean  16/44 is not hires

     

    CD is lossless and… 

    2 channels of LPCMaudio, each signed 16-bit values sampled at 44100 Hz
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      jay house
      Avid Contributor III
      May 29, 2021 10:16 AM UTC

      Yep, it’s called lossless because it’s compared to cd quality which is considered the base standard. Anything above this level is considered hi res and specialist, opening up the debate of whether there is any point in the presence of frequencies the human ear can’t hear being in the recording. 

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      TTT15
      Enthusiast I
      May 29, 2021 4:05 PM UTC

      The argument for hires is not that it enables high frequencies to be played. No one disputes that these frequencies can’t be heard. Therefore. it is a spurious defence against hires as it isn’t the argument for hires. 
       

      The argument for hires capability is not enabling higher frequencies - but firstly allowing higher quality original recordings to be played which can’t be played at all on Sonos ie zero sound quality on sonos and secondly higher sampling rates which allows for transient sounds to be captured which can be Heard  

       

      The difference certainly won’t be heard on Sonos speakers as they are not Hi-Fi. Sonos is an excellent life style product for background music but the sound quality of my Hi-Fi amp dac and speakers and reference headphone and amp is in a completely different league to Sonos speakers. In the same way that  adding an external dac and quality earbuds to my iPhone completely transforms the listening experience. 
       

      I’d agree hires on Sonos speakers is superfluous but it would be good if Sonos introduced a market competitive connect/port that enabled higher quality original recording to be played on Hi-Fi as most other streamers on the market do.  let us hope for Apple lossless on Sonos first. But at some point Sonos will have to admit that bandwidths and technology has moved on since Sonos was created or risk no longer being competitive. The technology department may be against hires but ultimately it’s marketing that wins. 

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        jack_c85
        jack_c85
        Avid Contributor I
        Jun 8, 2021 6:34 AM UTC

        Hoping now lossless on Apple Music has launched we will soon see this arriving on Sonos… happy to participate in any beta testing for this service. 

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          sim0nall3n
          Lyricist I
          Jun 8, 2021 7:04 AM UTC

          Likewise, really happy to beta test this functionality. Presumably, given the development with Qobuz, that implementation of higher res ALAC files to doable, if Apple give Sonos the nod.

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          wilwong829
          Enthusiast II
          Jun 8, 2021 7:23 AM UTC

          I have the latest APPLE TV 4K connected to my LG TV and getting Dolby Atmos from the APPLE TV+, iTunes Movies, Netflix and Tidal contents. So just wonder if this means I can enjoy the Spatial Audio from Apple Music as well? 

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          GuitarSuperstar
          Lead Maestro
          Jun 8, 2021 7:25 AM UTC

          I have the latest APPLE TV 4K connected to my LG TV and getting Dolby Atmos from the APPLE TV+, iTunes Movies, Netflix and Tidal contents. So just wonder if this means I can enjoy the Spatial Audio from Apple Music as well? 

          Yes. See my post:

           

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