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Sonos have one of the worst music apps I have never seen in a desktop

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December 17, 2016
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The visual aspects and the options are very poors and the way it manages the library is the worst intuitive and usable ways to run...Please tell SONOS if you are agree.

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Best answer by ratty

I'm sorry my English is so bad

No worries. It's infinitely better than my Spanish.

- Have access to my ridiculous library in a small column

The 3 panes are re-sizable, at least to a degree.

- Not being able to order my library by date of the disc or by news in my library, cities, etc.

That's a not infrequent request. Unfortunately Sonos doesn't store a date tag, and given that index space is severely constrained to maximise track capacity it's highly unlikely that any changes will be made in this area. Many users simply prefix the album name with the year.

- You can not choose a start view with the library when you start the application.

Actually I agree this would be nice. The controller remembers the last room, so why not a menu position.

- Not be able to search all services at once.

Agreed it would be a nice option to have an 'all sources' in the dropdown menu.

- Not having a decent podcast service

That's nothing to do with the controller. Services are being added all the time, but it takes a willingness from the service provider to interface to Sonos' open API.

- Can not hide the view rooms if I only use it in one or do not want to see that information.

You can squeeze that pane, but not eliminate it totally.

- Not able to change or choose the configuration of what I want it to do when double clicking on a song or folder (substitute queue, queue, put at the beginning of queue ...)

That could be a nice option too, at least for the Desktop controller. Some would also want that kind of flexibility in the iOS/Android controllers.

In the end up to the volume seems to me that it has a little progressive use and coarse

You can in fact adjust the volume by 1% at a time using a mouse pointer. The shortcut keys or mousewheel move it in increments of 2%

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ratty

Problem with an Android controller is you have to find a device that uses wireless charging so it is as convenient as the CR100 charging cradle to just pick up and use without dealing with any cables. It also requires a lot of configuration so it will wake when picked up, always open into the Sonos app, and use Sonsnet instead of Wi-Fi. If you want the same level of water resistance as the CR100 it gets even more challenging. I think the CR100 has a lot of important features that are hard to replicate making anything else a bit of a step backward. If the CR100 is a "museum piece curiosity" then all of the other alternatives are "unfortunate compromises" that cannot live up to past achievements.

For all its strengths -- hard buttons, modal menus, water-resistance, cradle charging, dedication to Sonos, etc -- the CR100 had a small, indifferent TN display, was awkward to use for Search (or any text entry for that matter), and is now sufficiently memory-constrained that a lot of stuff won't run on it. And of course in the modern world of touch the CR100 is precisely nowhere.

Any Android can potentially be re-purposed as a dedicated controller, by pinning the Sonos app. (The same goes for iOS and Guided Access.) Using, say, a Nexus 7 (2012) and its charging cradle the device can also be configured to wake when touched. Alternatively there are plenty of options using wireless charging, Nexus 7 (2013) being but one.

jgatie

Androids can also be configured to stay awake while charging by enabling Developer Options. An Android tablet with wireless charging or a charging dock, with the Sonos app pinned and stay awake enabled makes anyone pining for the overly expensive, inherently flawed, out of date Sonos CR100 look either silly, or like a third party installer who misses over-selling his clients with proprietary hardware.

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upstatemike

Proprietary hardware is not over-selling if it provides the best solution for a given situation. I agree that Android controllers can be made to do some things almost as well as the CR100 did them and also do some new things the CR100 can't do that may be useful to some people. Just noting that it takes a lot of extra work to get it all set up to act the way the CR100 does.

Local music library with carefully constructed playlists - no shuffling!, Integration with Homeseer Automation, No touch screen devices, No streaming services, No Apple products ever

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BoredofBalham

Prodigy II

Proprietary hardware is not over-selling if it provides the best solution for a given situation. I agree that Android controllers can be made to do some things almost as well as the CR100 did them and also do some new things the CR100 can't do that may be useful to some people. Just noting that it takes a lot of extra work to get it all set up to act the way the CR100 does.

But that is exactly the lots of money option vs the free option.
i was not going to buy Sonos until it was available to work well without extortionately expensive controllers and a sillyhub.

ratty

a sillyhub.

You surely can't be referring to SonosNet. If so, this has ceased to be a sensible discussion.

chicks

a sillyhub.

If you're referring to SonosNet, this has ceased to be a sensible discussion.

Was in Best Buy the other day, had to chuckle a bit that several of the latest and greatest WiFi routers have finally caught up to SonosNet's mesh system, including heavyweight Google.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/6/13843536/google-wifi-review-mesh-router-system-vs-eero

ratty

Was in Best Buy the other day, had to chuckle a bit that several of the latest and greatest WiFi routers have finally caught up to SonosNet's mesh system, including heavyweight Google.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/12/6/13843536/google-wifi-review-mesh-router-system-vs-eero

Ironically these mesh WiFi systems seem to be causing grief for some Sonos (SonosNet mainly) users. Many apparently don't appreciate that they've bought a meshed WiFi and a NAT router.

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upstatemike

I still prefer a wired multi-wan router plus separate wireless access points. I know that works with Sonos and probably does a better job of roaming from radio to radio than these mesh router/WAP combo deals. Also more advanced options on both the router side and the WAP configuration.

Local music library with carefully constructed playlists - no shuffling!, Integration with Homeseer Automation, No touch screen devices, No streaming services, No Apple products ever

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sergiobAuthor

Contributor I

I'm sorry m
y English is so bad because the colors do not matter to me, what annoys me are many other things:
- Have access to my ridiculous library in a small column
- Not being able to order my library by date of the disc or by news in my library, cities, etc.
- You can not choose a start view with the library when you start the application.
- Not be able to search all services at once.
- Not having a decent podcast service
- Can not hide the view rooms if I only use it in one or do not want to see that information.
- Not able to change or choose the configuration of what I want it to do when double clicking on a song or folder (substitute queue, queue, put at the beginning of queue ...)

In the end up to the volume seems to me that it has a little progressive use and coarse ...
I feel if something or a lot does not make sense, I'm using the translator.

Chris

Lead Maestro

Universal search is the real thing the desktop app is missing.

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