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Contributor I
May 19, 2019

Sonos App

  • May 19, 2019
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I use Apple Music (my reasons don’t matter) and I have a number of older Sonos products - mostly the the 5 Sonos Connects that I paid a lot to have installed to stream music throughout my house. Since these older devices cannot support Apple Airplay2, I cannot stream from the Apple Music app to them. So, I am stuck with the horrible, terrible, bordering on useless Sonos app and its poor, poor, poor integration with Apple Music.

Can someone recommend a solution to this?

Sonos support suggested grouping rooms with my other devices that do support Airplay2, but of course that does not work in my house, for a reason I cannot figure out. After trying 5 times even Sonos support gave up.

I need some hope and a better solution.
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    Edward R
    Retired Sonos Staff
    May 24, 2019
    Hi, Rak1065. Rather than recommend a workaround, I feel it would be better to fix the poor behaviour you are experiencing in the Sonos application. Can you please describe what is going wrong with the Apple Music integration in-app? This way we have a starting point. May I ask what you've tried, in an attempt to resolve this issue already? Many thanks.
    Try searching our articles for help with your question: https://www.sonos.com/en/support
    Lyricist I
    July 9, 2019
    I agree with the OP that the Sonos App is ridiculous. I can't search Apple Music properly with it, I just give up after getting stunted. I feel like I've bought a useless product, but for the fact I can use it as a radio.
    Lyricist II
    July 14, 2019
    Hi, Rak1065. Rather than recommend a workaround, I feel it would be better to fix the poor behaviour you are experiencing in the Sonos application. Can you please describe what is going wrong with the Apple Music integration in-app? This way we have a starting point. May I ask what you've tried, in an attempt to resolve this issue already? Many thanks.

    What about making software that works instead of putting the blame on "attempts to resolve it"?

    Your forum is plagued with comments regarding what a poor job you're doing about that part. God it's 2019 and streaming music from a PC is hell.
    Smilja
    July 14, 2019
    Sonos software is complete garbage. I should also have done my research before buying. This is utter shit for 2019. They're just rying to shove down our throats crap at the expense of what really matters, simple and practical software.


    Pardon me, I'm no clairvoyant - what exactly is your understanding of garbage regarding the Sonos app?
    »And the world is like an apple whirling silently in space, Like the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind.« (›Windmills Of Your Mind‹ [1967]. Music by Michel Legrand ; English lyrics written by Alan & Marilyn Bergman)
    Lyricist II
    July 14, 2019

    Pardon me, I'm no clairvoyant - what exactly is your understanding of garbage regarding the Sonos app?


    Pardon me, I am well versed in Business and I do not have time for Sonos "hidden" staff trying to steer discussions whichever way suits them. The content and number of your comments supports that viewpoint (from my perspective).

    Also, I strongly suggest you improve those speed reading skills and scout forums / Reddit / etc etc... That way you may gain a relatively complete response to your own question. :3

    Indeed it's not like that horse hasn't been beaten left and right, and frankly we all should expect someone with almost 2k responses and a sarcastic tone toward negative viewpoints to be capable of nailing the multiple points in questions.

    Nice try though.
    Smilja
    July 14, 2019
    @Tiniko67, for your information: the Sonos app is just a remote control. *shrug*
    »And the world is like an apple whirling silently in space, Like the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind.« (›Windmills Of Your Mind‹ [1967]. Music by Michel Legrand ; English lyrics written by Alan & Marilyn Bergman)
    chicks
    July 14, 2019
    What about making software that works instead of putting the blame on "attempts to resolve it"?

    Your forum is plagued with comments regarding what a poor job you're doing about that part. God it's 2019 and streaming music from a PC is hell. Stop your Bullshit tyvm.


    The Sonos app does exactly the job it's intended to do, simply, using modern Material Design. Nothing outdated about it, looks and flows almost exactly like the apps from any of the music providers, with the huge advantage of being able to search all of them at once, among many other features lacking in most music apps.

    Who in 2019 still streams music from a PC? So outdated...
    Edward R
    Retired Sonos Staff
    July 15, 2019

    Hi, Rak1065. Rather than recommend a workaround, I feel it would be better to fix the poor behaviour you are experiencing in the Sonos application. Can you please describe what is going wrong with the Apple Music integration in-app? This way we have a starting point. May I ask what you've tried, in an attempt to resolve this issue already? Many thanks.What about making software that works instead of putting the blame on "attempts to resolve it"?

    Your forum is plagued with comments regarding what a poor job you're doing about that part. God it's 2019 and streaming music from a PC is hell. Stop your ******* tyvm.


    Hi, Tiniko67. I deleted your previous response to this topic due to the expletives it contained. Please refrain from the use of profanity. We do not have Sonos employees masquerading as regular users. Any staff members are labelled as such.

    There are hundreds of thousands that use the software daily - without issue. If you believe your specific instance of the application is having issues, we'd need to rule out issues with your home network first. However, of all the reports of a poorly functioning app I've seen (which, you are correct, are there if you look for them), I'm yet to see a single one that was actually down to a fault with the software.

    If you have an issue you'd like assistance with, do let us know.
    Try searching our articles for help with your question: https://www.sonos.com/en/support
    Lyricist III
    February 14, 2020

     

    Hi, Rak1065. Rather than recommend a workaround, I feel it would be better to fix the poor behaviour you are experiencing in the Sonos application. Can you please describe what is going wrong with the Apple Music integration in-app? This way we have a starting point. May I ask what you've tried, in an attempt to resolve this issue already? Many thanks.

    What about making software that works instead of putting the blame on "attempts to resolve it"?

    Your forum is plagued with comments regarding what a poor job you're doing about that part. God it's 2019 and streaming music from a PC is hell. Stop your ******* tyvm.

     


    Hi, Tiniko67. I deleted your previous response to this topic due to the expletives it contained. Please refrain from the use of profanity. We do not have Sonos employees masquerading as regular users. Any staff members are labelled as such.

    There are hundreds of thousands that use the software daily - without issue. If you believe your specific instance of the application is having issues, we'd need to rule out issues with your home network first. However, of all the reports of a poorly functioning app I've seen (which, you are correct, are there if you look for them), I'm yet to see a single one that was actually down to a fault with the software.

    If you have an issue you'd like assistance with, do let us know.

     

    Hi Edward R.

    The Sonos app for Mac is one of the most infuriating apps I have ever used in my life. Sure, examples can be given, but where do you start? Sure, there are thousands of people using the app. I’m one of them. But I wouldn’t say I don’t have any issues, there are loads. I just haven’t been bothered to report it until now because there are some workarounds to sort of make it do what you want it to do. Today I decided to google “why is sonos mac app so bad” and I came across this thread and decided to chime in. Also, I think all sorts of profanity is warranted when expressing the frustration this app causes, but I’m going to refrain from using it because you clearly take issue with it.

    I cannot disagree any more with what chicks and Smilja said about it doing exactly what it’s intended to do, that it’s a remote control and that it’s not outdated and feels and flows just like any other music app. It’s the worst remote control I’ve ever used in my life.

    Actually, the Sonos app does not feel like a native Mac application at all. Try using something like Spotify or Apple Music on a Mac and you’ll get an idea of how an application should feel.

    Here’s a very very basic example that you would expect would have been fairly straightforward in 2020. I want to listen to specific song in Spotify and add it to my queue, then I want to add a few more songs.

    I search for Goldfrapp Ocean, because the artist is Goldfrapp and the name of the song is called Ocean. I get the message: “Search returned no results for ‘goldfrapp ocean’ in Artists. Please try a different category or a new search term.”

    Ok, not quite fair enough, but in this terrible application you have to click over to Songs to find this specific song, so I click the Songs category. Now I get the message: “Search returned no results for ‘goldfrapp ocean’ in Songs. Please try a different category or a new search term.”

    Hmm.. Ok, let’s try and remove Goldfrapp from the search. Now lots of songs are showing up, but not the one I wanted. Let’s try and add Goldfrapp at the end of the search. Bingo… I’ve found the song. But should I really have to go through this to find a song?

    I add the song to my queue. But I want to add another song to it, which in my opinion should be fairly straightforward to do. Sparing you from my music interest, I go through the hoops again and finally find the next song, I grab the song and drag it to the queue below the current track. It randomly (this doesn’t happen all the time) adds the song above the one currently playing. I try to grab it to pull it down below that one, but the app is frozen.. Then a little message pops up saying “One track added to the queue” and I can’t do anything until that has gone away. And when it goes away the whole application just flashes and redraws the whole view. Annoying? Yeah.

    So I have added a bunch of songs to my queue and I’m at the point where they can’t all fit in the view that I’m in, so I leave the app for a second (because I need to use Spotify to find songs since the Sonos app is so bad at searching) and when I come back and I want to add another song, I cannot scroll through the queue, it’s just stuck. If I grab another song and move it towards the queue, it sort of unfreezes and lets me move around it in while still holding on to the song. But really?

    So yeah, adding a bunch of songs to a queue is super annoying and really hard work.

    I am not surprised the app is not in the App Store, because if it was, the ratings would have been so terrible.

    BTW, I’ve been using this app for a few years now on many different computers and many different versions of MacOS and it’s always been like this. The app for the phone works a bit better, but it’s still not great, it comes with its own issues + the weird counterintuitive search.

    So those are the issues that I personally would like assistance with. Not sure about the op.

    Avid Contributor I
    February 14, 2020

    Edward R and SONOS,

     

    If I can add my two cents, the SONOS App interface with Apple Music is terrible.  Have brought this up on the forum many times, to deaf ears.  The menu is very restricted and outdated as compared to Apple Music on virtually any other device.  It reflects Apple Music as it was back in 2015.  At this point, I have to assume it reflects the inability of all current SONOS hardware to be updated, otherwise why would this be left as is?  And yes, I know the immediate response will be - this is Apple’s responsibility, they must update their app using SONOS’s provided API, but that is a terrible cop out.  Many services besides Apple Music seem to either not update their interfaces on SONOS, or make them overly simplified, and I truly think SONOS has not admitted that their commitment to older and now outdated hardware has prevented such updates.

     

    With everything that has gone down recently, I sincerely hope that SONOS will be motivated, now that it is leaving behind outdated underpowered hardware, to update in a timely fashion its interfaces with Apple Music, Spotify, etc.  

     

    Otherwise, I do fear that SONOS is becoming, and will continue to become, increasingly irrelevant in the current wireless speaker and music streaming reality.