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Enthusiast I
June 14, 2019

SMB2 (or SMB3) support must be supported NOW!

  • June 14, 2019
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We are writing summer 2019 and still Sonos only supports SMB version 1 for the Music Library share.

This is not acceptable.

A file share running SMB1 is extremely vulnerable to all the variants of cryptolocker virus that exists today. File share servers (NAS, Windows, Apple OS) can only support one version of SMB - so you cannot from the same box have one file share (for Sonos) using SMB1 and the other file shares using SMB2 or SMB3. This way Sonos puts each and every file share at serious risc - just because they don’t update their file share protocol to comply with this century.

And for the record - the “solution” through PLEX is not a solution. Unstable at best.
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281 replies

Trending Lyricist I
October 4, 2020

I’m not worried about data collection, could care less!

I was responding to your comment “I know they don’t sell my personal data, but what about aggregate”

It is not very likely that they do, as there isn't anything left to sell. 

Airgetlam
October 4, 2020

Curious as to how they’ve monetized Sonos Radio. I’m not paying a subscription fee to Sonos, so far….or to anyone else. Unless you mean the same advertising as terrestrial radio already has. 

Bruce
October 4, 2020

A bigger concern for me would be if Sonos want to stop supporting local file servers completely.

……….

But I realize I might be a dying minority that don't pay a monthly fee to listen to the music I have already bought. 

 

Same here… I’ve tried out a few subscription services, but I’d have to buy into multiple services simply to access the range of music that I already ‘own’.

I haven’t automatically accepted any updates since 5.x, when (from my point of view) they messed up the interface, and currently lock down everything tight unless I have a real need to open anything up. Usually updating costs me money - e.g. yet another perfectly capable device is obsolete, from a Sonos point of view.

I think that we just have to accept that we are no longer the target audience, and take whatever steps are necessary to be able to use our kit in the way that we want to, until it dies. I feel much happier now that suitable alternatives are available - and not only much cheaper but more capable. I speak as someone, though, who has no need for multi-room in sync playing, so my options are perhaps more open than some.

controlav
Lead Maestro
October 4, 2020

A bigger concern for me would be if Sonos want to stop supporting local file servers completely.

 

Sonos could simply delete SMB support tomorrow (which would be the most secure option), and those of us using PCs or Macs to host music files would still be fine, as SMB is not required for those platforms any more.

If NAS users want a solution, they just need to get the http server running on those NASs, which would take a few hours of work. However there has been zero interest expressed in this work to date.

Sonos have the telemetry to know how many users rely on file servers, and how many of those use NASs and need SMB support. One can only assume the numbers are small enough for them to not be too concerned about that demographic.

Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.
Trending Lyricist I
October 4, 2020

 

 

Sonos could simply delete SMB support tomorrow

Yes they could. 

(which would be the most secure option)

Because HTTP is secure and SMB is insecure? Or are you referring to the issue that is only affecting Windows?

If NAS users want a solution, they just need to get the http server running on those NASs, which would take a few hours of work. However there has been zero interest expressed in this work to date.

Are you saying that that I could get this to work over HTTP with a few hours of work?  Care to share?

Sonos have the telemetry to know how many users rely on file servers

You mean from the thing most advanced users turn off when they set up their system?

controlav
Lead Maestro
October 5, 2020

If NAS users want a solution, they just need to get the http server running on those NASs, which would take a few hours of work. However there has been zero interest expressed in this work to date.

Are you saying that that I could get this to work over HTTP with a few hours of work?  Care to share?

Sure, PM me and I’ll give you the details. Requirement: A NAS platform that can run .NET Core and knowledge of C#.

Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.
Trending Lyricist I
October 5, 2020


A file share running SMB1 is extremely vulnerable to all the variants of cryptolocker virus that exists today. 

I was under the impression that this was for old unpatched versions of Windows... 

Are you saying that my Samba server runing under Linux is vulnerable to this family of exploits when allowing SMB1? 

Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
October 5, 2020

I’m not an expert on that but I think running SMB v1 on anything does have security issues. Too lazy to dig into the details as they likely vary by Linux distribution.

Avoiding the issue, I went with a dedicated SMB v1 NAS based on a Raspberry PI here and set up a friend with a NFS to SMB v1 gateway on a Pi Zero W.

This has been an open issue for so long expecting a change isn’t realistic. Not saying it won’t come, but don’t hold your breath. Instead pick a safe work-around and move on.

The .Net Core option sounds interesting but my problem is solved.

Trending Lyricist I
November 15, 2020

I am so puzzled at the lack of support for NAS users. 
Am I the only one with old, weird music that is impossible to find elsewhere?
And if Sonos does not want to support NAS, could they not support OneDrive instead? 

Oh well, since I do not know what I am doing it took me forever to figure out the SMB1 solution.
But now it is done. Until the next hiccup.

Bose, here I come!

 

Airgetlam
November 15, 2020

Curious as to whether you’ve read the thread before posting to it?

Bruce