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Enthusiast I
June 14, 2019

SMB2 (or SMB3) support must be supported NOW!

  • June 14, 2019
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We are writing summer 2019 and still Sonos only supports SMB version 1 for the Music Library share.

This is not acceptable.

A file share running SMB1 is extremely vulnerable to all the variants of cryptolocker virus that exists today. File share servers (NAS, Windows, Apple OS) can only support one version of SMB - so you cannot from the same box have one file share (for Sonos) using SMB1 and the other file shares using SMB2 or SMB3. This way Sonos puts each and every file share at serious risc - just because they don’t update their file share protocol to comply with this century.

And for the record - the “solution” through PLEX is not a solution. Unstable at best.
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controlav
Lead Maestro
December 15, 2020

There is another possible solution for NAS users: someone needs to implement the Sonos REST service as used on PC and Mac. I’ve had PMs with a couple of folks explaining how to do this, but no-one seems to have done it so far.

Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.
Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
December 15, 2020

Sonos talk up S2 as a new operating system so it is BS that they don’t fix it. This is a very old flaw and shame on them that they have not fixed it yet. 
 

Yes there are work arounds but we shouldn’t require this on new hardware and an OS that was released in 2020. 
 

They lack the will to do it and frankly I hope people keep coming at them here and on social media until they fix this. 

S2 is not a new Operating System, it is a new user interface running on the same old, antique Linux Operating System.

The OS Sonos is using is from the early 2000s If I recall correctly. you can check in their GPL section.

 

They may well lack the will but it could be other resource constraints too.

I’m all for pressuring them to update S2, been there doing that since around 2016. But that won’t help S1 users who are stuck with SMB v1 for NAS access. Maybe if Sonos released the data needed for someone to do a NAS server like they use on Windows or Mac it would help.

Trending Lyricist I
December 15, 2020


« A file share running SMB1 is extremely vulnerable to all the variants of cryptolocker virus that exists today. File share servers (NAS, Windows, Apple OS) can only support one version of SMB - so you cannot from the same box have one file share (for Sonos) using SMB1 and the other file shares using SMB2 or SMB3. This way Sonos puts each and every file share at serious risc - just because they don’t update their file share protocol to comply with this century. »

Sure you can 

you create a Docker Macvlan network with a dedicated list of IPs and with sole read access to your music ( with a dedicated login/password).

And you can deactivate definitively the SMB1 support in Your Synology for the native network.

This makes a specific dedicated local network for your Sonos only.

cheers 

PHILIPPE 

 

Chromatic Producer I
December 16, 2020

I’m back here with the same issue,  new Synology User, and faced with the SMB1 issue.  For a long time on my prior NAS software solution I had a backup of the Music Library (it’s in ITunes format though my use of iTunes is really limited) on a desktop and just had SONOS point to that.  My music library is now near 25,000 tracks about 190 GB but really is growing much more slowly as I stream via services more and more and since I don’t commute anymore, my iphone music isn’t that important.  I took that backup offline due to space constraints on that PC, but maybe its worth going back to that for SONOS.  I have Plex and the music library was there, but I really use it to play music content.

 

I really don’t want to add more complexity that no one else in the house will ever figure out - Docker (OMG)… Maybe it just time to suck it up and go back and increase the size of that PC’s THIRD drive.

 

If this is really a legacy SONOS issue (and I have a few of them, sadly none of my 5 CC100’s anymore) then with the new S1 and S2 options, I would think that S2 would be a good place to fix the SMB1 problem (I assume its not fixed there, I’m still on S1).

Bumper
December 16, 2020

@cap3344 you are correct,

S2 has not fixed this glaring security problem.

There was a no indication that they will even fix it. 

Lyricist I
December 17, 2020

Really…. stop harassing met about S2, first allow SMB2 or SMB3 support for “older” hardware. No more playing my own music from my own NAS? I will not invest in SONOS any longer.

ratty
December 17, 2020

Really…. stop harassing met about S2, first allow SMB2 or SMB3 support for “older” hardware. 

If you mean S1, that certainly isn’t going to happen. S1 is frozen functionally, owing to hardware memory limitations in the older players.

Lyricist I
December 18, 2020

I was very annoyed about the security hole that Sonos does not want to close!


In the last update of my Synology NAS, SMB1 was restricted. As a result, Sonos could no longer access the NAS music folder. Synology responded to the problem and provided an update within a week.

Sonos can take an example of how to respond to customer needs!

Since Sonos has not found a solution for years (no SMB2 or SMB3), I decided to sell my Sonos system.

Chromatic Producer I
December 18, 2020

I was very annoyed about the security hole that Sonos does not want to close!


In the last update of my Synology NAS, SMB1 was restricted. As a result, Sonos could no longer access the NAS music folder. Synology responded to the problem and provided an update within a week.

Sonos can take an example of how to respond to customer needs!

Since Sonos has not found a solution for years (no SMB2 or SMB3), I decided to sell my Sonos system.

can you post details about the Synology fix, would like to see if I can do something on my DS1520+

Lyricist I
December 18, 2020