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June 30, 2020
Question

S2 App fails to start after installing on Win 10 OS.

  • June 30, 2020
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Upgraded my Sonos Controller on Win 10 OS to the new S2 app but now neither open when selected??  Have tried to uninstall both 3 times and re-install and repair the S2 app on Windows.  The app still fails to open when selected.

 

Becoming more and more unhappy with Sonos, since they removed the option to play music direct from my phone…  Now the windows controller doesnt work!

 

Any help, apart from changing hardware brand at this time, would be appreciated.

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controlav
Lead Maestro
November 7, 2020

Norton 360 doesn’t affect the Windows controller.


Really? I thought the whole point of it was to intercept network access and scan executables as they load, looking for bad things. If that can’t affect sonos.exe then what use is it? At minimum it must install its own firewall, and that can certainly affect win32 apps like Sonos.

Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.
ratty
November 7, 2020

Norton 360 doesn’t affect the Windows controller.


Really? I thought the whole point of it was to intercept network access and scan executables as they load, looking for bad things. If that can’t affect sonos.exe then what use is it? At minimum it must install its own firewall, and that can certainly affect win32 apps like Sonos.

 

Of course Norton is aware of sonos.exe but in my years of Norton use I have never seen it interfere with the WDCR. It recognises the signature and trusts it. Nor, for that matter, has it ever blocked the installer.

Smilja
November 7, 2020

I’ve encountered several cases over the past years where Norton affected the use of the Windows controller.

»And the world is like an apple whirling silently in space, Like the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind.« (›Windmills Of Your Mind‹ [1967]. Music by Michel Legrand ; English lyrics written by Alan & Marilyn Bergman)
ratty
November 7, 2020

YMMV clearly.

controlav
Lead Maestro
November 7, 2020

I’ve encountered several cases over the past years where Norton affected the use of the Windows controller.

Yeah, it comes up occasionally on here and Reddit. Writing kernel filter drivers that block bad things and allow good things, totally reliably, is hard. I used to work for Dr Solomon’s years ago, one of the early anti-virus companies. Fun times.

Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.
Lyricist III
November 7, 2020

Solved !   Some what dramatically.  I reinstalled a fresh copy of Windows 10  as I keep only the OS and Applications on my solid state C: drive it did not take too long.  As soon as this was done I installed the Sonos 2 App with only Microsoft Defender for protection. It was like a different beast … It requested fire wall permission and setting  which the faulting installation had not during the install.  It then ran perfectly and is now working better that my old Sonos 1 set up.  I have reinstalled my preferred AV, BitDefender and all continues to run well. 

Thanks for you  for your engagement all the same,

Mark

PS Just need to reconfigure all my other apps now, that will take a day.    

controlav
Lead Maestro
November 7, 2020

Great! So no Norton involved in the Windows refresh, right?

Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.
Lyricist III
November 7, 2020

Great! So no Norton involved in the Windows refresh, right?

No Norton !   Just Microsoft Defender on a virgin install of Windows 10 64bit  20H2  19042.610. 

BitDefender AV now installed and Sonos still running nicely. 

 

Smilja
November 7, 2020

I have been using Windows Defender and Firewall since the introduction of Windows 8.1, for me the most trustworthy protection against malware, viruses, worms and other vermin.

»And the world is like an apple whirling silently in space, Like the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind.« (›Windmills Of Your Mind‹ [1967]. Music by Michel Legrand ; English lyrics written by Alan & Marilyn Bergman)
Lyricist III
November 7, 2020

Nothing wrong with Windows Defender … It is just that Bitdefender is a bit better. Sometimes a bit too much better  but at least it usually tells you when it is blocking  or that you have risky browsing, for sure it has stopped more than Windows Defender.  Only complaint is their marketing is a bit pushy.   

In Windows Defenders defence I would say it is better behaved than Bitdefender   when making new installs, perhaps it is a little more aware of installs ???