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Trending Lyricist I
Jan 21, 2015 6:51 PM UTC

Request for feedback: Shuffle

Hello. My name is Ben Smith and I head up Product Management for Experience, Software, and Developer Programs at Sonos.

I wanted to get more feedback from you all on your expectations for Shuffling tracks in your queue. I have reviewed the feedback on ask.sonos.com and received e-mails from a few of you (via our CEO John MacFarlane), but I wanted to get a better sense from those of you who use Shuffle, how your really want it to work.

When you select shuffle what do you want to happen? What don't you want to happen?

Thanks!

Ben
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    Lyricist III
    Jan 22, 2015 4:25 PM UTC
    I agree.  If for some reason the que resets itself - I'd like to be able to move down the que and start in the middle and see the songs that will come up next.
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    Lyricist III
    Jan 22, 2015 4:32 PM UTC
    Simple overview: All songs in the queue should be played at random, but each played track should be flagged so that it doesn't get played a second time. Clicking shuffle a second time, or replacing the queue should clear the "already played" marker
    I'm not sure what kind of internal storage the unit has... but a number of times played and also a date last played would be nice to see.
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    Lyricist III
    Jan 22, 2015 4:49 PM UTC
    Maybe a staged approach to implementing this SuperShuffle feature would get us certain features faster than others. 

    Priority for me would be:

    1) the que show the order songs will be played

    2) there be a way to reshuffle the que (or deck as it may be)

    3) the que remember were I was and start again from there

    4) allow for a song to be removed from the que after it is played

       a) allow for the last entry in the que to select another que

       b) there could be many options here on what to do with an empty que

    5) allow for a last played date

    6) song play counter

    7) select random music within certain other meta data (like artist, album, genre, "like" titles, etc.)

    Thank you for the opportunity to help shape this feature...
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    Prodigy I
    Jan 22, 2015 5:46 PM UTC
    Simple overview: All songs in the queue should be played at random, but each played track should be flagged so that it doesn't get played a second time. Clicking shuffle a second time, or replacing the queue should clear the "already played" marker
    You guys are asking for added features that should be in the other thread. Let's just give feedback as to how to improve the shuffle play here...
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    I am just a worthless liar. I am just an imbecil.
    Contributor I
    Jan 22, 2015 9:24 PM UTC
    We use Sonos in our open format office space. Sometimes we want to play a song already in the queue next, but there's no way to do that. You have to wait until the song is almost finished, find the song in the list (annoying if you have a ton of songs in the queue) and double click to play it. Another way is to go to your Spotify, find the song that you want to hear next, and choose Play Next, but it adds it to the queue again, and end up with multiples of that song in the play list. Very annoying.
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    Lyricist II
    Jan 23, 2015 4:34 AM UTC
    I don't use the queue that often, so I'd like to be able to shuffle a playlist from my Music library (independent of the queue) or from a service like Spotify where I've curated playlists and want to hear them in a random order.
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    Lyricist III
    Jan 23, 2015 9:46 AM UTC
    I can only echo above really. I should be able to add tracks to the queue and then hit shuffle for 'tracks to be shuffled like a pack of cards'. I should then be able to reshuffle if I chose. If on another day I add the same tracks to the queue, the shuffle order should be completely different. I should not hear the same track more than once until the queue has completed.
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    Contributor I
    Jan 25, 2015 10:29 PM UTC
    Great to see that feedback is being taken on this topic and hope action isn't far behind.
    This morning I loaded up a bunch of albums I wanted to listen to, selected the first track, only to find that the next track was from the same album and then the next track was from the same album. So, I went and selected a track from a different album and then the next track after was also from the same album.
    I've now listened to five songs and not once has the shuffle feature selected a track from a different album. I hardly call that random.
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    Contributor III
    Feb 3, 2015 1:57 AM UTC
    I just want to join the crowd in requesting this shuffle/random feature to be made available to one's entire library, or within an artist or playlist.
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    Enthusiast II
    Feb 3, 2015 4:13 AM UTC
    Most "random" algorithms are terrible and ultimately lead after short time to a similar experience within a set playlist. Please try something more sophisticated like multiplying a random number with date and time to prevent this.

    Thanks for checking with the community.  
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    -Cheers