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Mar 9, 2020 2:21 AM UTC
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Question about the CR100 and legacy mode

Hello

With the new sonos legacy mode that stops certain Sonos devices from being bricked, is the CR100 going to be added to this list? It was permanently bricked in April 2018 and not much has happened since. Can you PLEASE add this device to the supported devices for legacy mode?

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Stanley_4
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Grand Maestro
Mar 9, 2020 3:15 AM UTC

Support for the CR-100 has been removed from the system to make room for other more important things for a long time so the only folks still able to use them have been blocking Sonos updates since the EOL announcement and rebate program. I doubt many folks have any CR-100 still available.

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melvimbe
Jul 28, 2020 12:19 PM UTC

I’m still using three CR100s on my system, which is locked down on OS 8.4. The controllers work and look great and I’ll never get rid of them.

 

But I want to be absolutely clear about this: Is OS 8.4 the absolute latest I can run? In other words, if I upgrade to S1, it will brick my CR100s?

 

I don’t know what the absolute latest OS version for CR100 is, but the current S1 version OS most certainly does not support CR100s.

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Danny
Lyricist III
Jul 28, 2020 4:18 PM UTC

That’s what I thought. Thanks for the quick reply, I will stick with 8.4.

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Enthusiast II
Jul 29, 2020 3:56 PM UTC

That’s what I thought. Thanks for the quick reply, I will stick with 8.4.

Yes 8.4 definitely the latest that supports CR100.

Given all things that couldn’t happen:

  • impossible to have two versions of apps
  • impossible to support legacy versions of code
  • impossible to have different code bases on different devices

then it is highly likely that S1 could support CR100, despite protestations to the contrary. It’s not like s1 supports SMB or other major change. In fact other than Google voice I struggle to see what has been added since 8.4.

But it won’t happen. So we are stuck with 8.4 until such time as it is unworkable and then we will have to upgrade. Maybe by that time there will be a decent app or desktop version that can be used.

To be honest not having constant updates is a relief!

Dave

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Owner since 2006: Legacy System(8.4):3*CR100:1*ZP80:4*ZP100:1*Play 5. - S1 System:1*ZP100:1*Z120. - S2 System:5*Amp:1*Port:2*Five:1*Arc,1*Move:1*Play Bar:1*Subwoofer:5*Play1 : Long live the CR100!
Enthusiast II
Jul 29, 2020 4:05 PM UTC

Quick question. Is anyone on 8.4 still able to cast from Spotify App direct to Sonos device, Mine stopped working a while back. I can cast from Spotify App to other things like Sky boxes. They do appear in list and attempt to send but then fail.

Can still use CR100 to locate tracks and play on Spotify. It is just the casting to devices that fails. Alexa has the same issue with casting. Not sure if it is a network issue or a functionality change in Spotify. Cheers

Dave

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Owner since 2006: Legacy System(8.4):3*CR100:1*ZP80:4*ZP100:1*Play 5. - S1 System:1*ZP100:1*Z120. - S2 System:5*Amp:1*Port:2*Five:1*Arc,1*Move:1*Play Bar:1*Subwoofer:5*Play1 : Long live the CR100!
Lyricist III
Sep 2, 2020 8:14 AM UTC

Is there any way to upgrade a ZP100 from software version 5.1 to version 8.4? The ZP100 is recognized by the PC controller, and I can add the ZP100 to my Sonos system that has six other players running 8.4. But the older ZP100 isn’t functional to play music and sync with the other players unless I run a software upgrade, which of course will be S1. But I don’t want that, I only want to upgrade to 8.4.

Is there any way to accomplish this? Perhaps make the older ZP100 get its update from the other players on my system running 8.4, and not upgrade via the internet?

I have a feeling there isn’t any way to do this, but just thought I would ask. Thanks for any thoughts and possible solutions.

 

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controlav
Lead Maestro
Sep 2, 2020 12:32 PM UTC

No, not without an extraordinary amount of work, including the acquisition of an 8.4 image for the CR100 (the time to capture was, what, four years ago) and the creation of a fake Sonos update endpoint.

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Lyricist III
Sep 2, 2020 3:21 PM UTC

Thanks for the response. I was thinking of some type of fake endpoint as you suggest to trick the ZP100 into updating itself from a local network address that I control, and which has the 8.4 update software stored in it. 
 

Since Sonos and the preservation of my four CR100s are essentially a pet project for me at this point, I am not adverse to an extraordinary amount of work, as you put it. Would it be possible to create an image of the 8.4 update software, using one of my existing 8.4 hardware devices? The genie is in the bottle of those hardware devices, it seems to me. If I could get the necessary image, it would be a major step toward setting up the unique update system that you mention.

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controlav
Lead Maestro
Sep 3, 2020 1:29 PM UTC

No. The time to capture the 8.4 image is when the device upgraded to it, ie years ago. Its a signed download, so you can’t re-create it from an existing device. It is remotely possible it is still sitting on a Sonos CDN somewhere, but I have no idea how to find something like that.

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Lyricist III
Sep 3, 2020 10:42 PM UTC

Thanks for your insight, much appreciated. If by some miracle I ever come up with a makeshift solution to the problem, I’ll post it here.

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Avid Contributor I
Nov 28, 2020 9:06 PM UTC

I’m also using 8.4 as I have two CR100’s as well. If anyone could come up with a way of installing 8.4 firmware on secondhand Sonos :clap: 

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