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Trending Lyricist I
June 20, 2018

Playlists Vs. Genres -- Why Different Menu Options

  • June 20, 2018
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For reference, I use Google Music...

Quick question: when I'm viewing a playlist (so in a specific playlist, not just viewing all of my playlists), to the upper right I get the three dot menu option that allows me to "play now", "play next", "add to end of queue", etc. I get six useful options.

If I'm in a genre, and view a specific genre, and click that same menu option, all I get is the option to "Add to My Sonos." It doesn't allow me to add songs to a queue or to create quick and easy playlists.

Why not give that same functionality that I get from my playlists view to genres, artists, etc.? Is this simply an oversight that can be corrected?
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14 replies

June 20, 2018
I don't think it is an oversight, nor that there is anything to fix. 'Genres' are more like radio stations than playlists, and the Sonos queue is not used when playing genres.

(For comparison. if you look under 'My Radio Stations' and tap the three dots, the only option is 'Add to My Sonos'.)
FTTAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
June 20, 2018
That's not helpful. Many people play their music by genre (radio stations for example, most of which play more than one specific genre). So being able to create your queue or add a genre to your current queue would definitely be useful. I'm not suggesting some people don't only want to play their playlists every single time and never add an artist or genre to an existing queue. But many people, myself included, would like to be able to add a genre or artist to an existing queue. So back to my point, it seems like it would be quite simple to add functionality for those people who did want to use it. John B obviously not in that group with his expansive playlist options.
June 20, 2018
That's not helpful. Many people play their music by genre (radio stations for example, most of which play more than one specific genre). So being able to create your queue or add a genre to your current queue would definitely be useful. I'm not suggesting some people don't only want to play their playlists every single time and never add an artist or genre to an existing queue. But many people, myself included, would like to be able to add a genre or artist to an existing queue. So back to my point, it seems like it would be quite simple to add functionality for those people who did want to use it. John B obviously not in that group with his expansive playlist options.Don't know why I bothered to try to explain the difference in fundamental nature of the two things. Believe what you like. This won't change, you just don't understand.
FTTAuthor
Trending Lyricist I
June 20, 2018
That's not helpful. Many people play their music by genre (radio stations for example, most of which play more than one specific genre). So being able to create your queue or add a genre to your current queue would definitely be useful. I'm not suggesting some people don't only want to play their playlists every single time and never add an artist or genre to an existing queue. But many people, myself included, would like to be able to add a genre or artist to an existing queue. So back to my point, it seems like it would be quite simple to add functionality for those people who did want to use it. John B obviously not in that group with his expansive playlist options.Don't know why I bothered to try to explain the difference in fundamental nature of the two things. Believe what you like. This won't change, you just don't understand.

Perhaps you don't understand what I'd like to accomplish, but no need to be condescending when you can't help. Maybe somebody else here can help, but thanks for your thoughts.

Is there somebody from the Sonos staff that might be able to help? When viewing my library by premade "playlists," I have a lot of functionality in the menu (such as "play next", "add to end of queue", etc., but when viewing by genre or artist, I don't see that same functionality (I only get "add to my Sonos"). I would like to be able to add a genre of music or music by an artist to my queue the same way I can add a premade playlist to my queue. Obviously the functionality already exists, so I hope that's something they can look into.
Prodigy II
June 20, 2018
Assuming that the genre is tagged in a meaningful way (and nothing stops the same artist being flagged as different genres across different albums), there's the intended/possible use-cases to consider. Genres are like filters. They help narrow down your selection to an artist/album/song, but is just "playing everything of genre X" useful? Especially if it's not a niche genre? If you were to play everything marked as "rock" from your local library, that might be thousands of tracks. Sonos has a finite amount of memory, so there's a maximum queue size. Now imagine you try to play (or queue up for shuffling) every "rock" song from your chosen streaming service. There might be some technical constraints behind limiting what you can do while browsing a genre.

Although, at least on desktop controller / local library, I can keep browsing down through a genre until I get to a list of all tracks for a genre (alphabetically by track title), and fill the queue with lots of noisy "industrial" songs...
June 20, 2018
It is a community board, @FTT. If you want to talk to Sonos, talk to Sonos.
Chris
Lead Maestro
June 20, 2018
Are you sure when in google play you don't get an option to add to My Sonos. You should. I don't have google play to test but I know in some services you have to scroll down and hit more.


I'm in Spotify Music right now and if I hit the ... the 2nd option is add to My Sonos.

In apple music the first option is Add Playlist to My Sonos
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June 21, 2018
You do get an option to Add to My Sonos, just as you do for radio. The OP's complaint was that was the only option, with no 'Add to Queue' etc. As I pointed out, that is because, with good reason, the queue is not used for radio stations or genres, but he judged that explanation unhelpful.
ratty
June 21, 2018
In the local library, individual artist or genre containers have an 'All' option to handle all the tracks in that container (in ascending alphabetical order). If Google Music doesn't then it's presumably a shortcoming of the way the service presents itself to Sonos.
Local Superstar
June 21, 2018
As genre is available as metadata, I don't see why some users wouldn't want to be able to add music of a certain genre - just like others add it by album, artist or whatever.
Alan_6 seems to think all users should treat the idea of a genre 'filter' as he does and not how they wish to use it. It's metadata in the same sense as Artist, album etc. etc...
If Google haven't implemented it this way then that's probably an issue with their side as opposed to Sonos's.