Password to avoid guests changing music

For the paranoid a simple workaround is to have a single component from a different Household -- a BRIDGE will do -- on the same subnet. You'll then be asked to press buttons as before.

Hmm thanks for the tip, not perfect but might be good enough for my purposes.

People know the button-pressing trick, too, so unless the equipment is all stashed, that doesn't work.

jgatie -- for all of those applications, PIN would only be required once. If you install the app and type in the PIN once, then your phone always can access and change any of the permissions for any of the zones. It would authorize the app on your phone as a superuser, and that could be only once! (Or if you *want* to authorize every time, you could set it to prompt you every time the app started).

And what about the complaints that if one gives their phone to a child, or to a guest, or you have a community tablet like in many homes? What if you wish to give some functions to some people, like older children and guests, but don't want them to be super users? And in the case of room passwords, what keeps a non-super user from having to enter a passcode every time they need to play something in a room where they are actually authorized? Do you have multiple passcodes for these people that varies with the amount of power given? Maybe a passcode for each room? Gets complicated, doesn't it?

We could go on for pages and pages over minutia that isn't even in your personal wish, and that have use cases that vary to infinity.

Brass tacks? Just setup a Guest network. Problem (at least your problem) is then solved.

If you create a community tablet or if you hand your unlocked phone to someone else, well haven't you then ceded permission to any user to operate the system? You are right that in the ideal world you could turn on a PIN for certain zones so that really only you could use that zone if holding that unlocked device. And that person would choose to turn that PIN on. And so it would only be a nuisance for the users who opt to do that.

It doesn't get complicated at all. What you are describing would be great and not all that hard. And yes it would generate cases that might require people who set up elaborate padlocks to undo those padlocks every time. But those folks would have to choose to set up all the padlocks in the first place! No one is claiming these should be mandatory. A single PIN on the app would cover a large percentage of use cases, and if Sonos were to add more PINs for more use cases, great. Windows has this stuff when you log in, and you can set different permissions for each file in your whole OS depending on login. Permissioning is very widespread, very accepted practice, and somewhat expected these days.

Have you set up your guest network yet, or are you going to continue to harangue Sonos for something the CEO himself has said is not coming?

I wouldn't call it haranguing, but as you wish. Perhaps I'll stop "haranguing" a corporation that has no problem seeing feedback on its forums and assessing it dispassionately when you stop haranguing individual users on a forum. You may be a "Rock Star" with almost 10,000 replies, but that is clearly no measure of your respectful treatment of those with different opinions from yours.

People know the button-pressing trick, too, so unless the equipment is all stashed, that doesn't work.


Sorry, man... but if you have to lock up your equipment to keep friends and family from abusing it, you have bigger problems than Sonos applying a password. Again, set up a guest network and be done with it.

Isn't this just a music system we are talking about?!

Are there any concerns that private/sensitive data can be hacked via a Sonos system back door entry to the Wifi network? And is a Sonos password still needed if the Home Wifi network is password protected from guest access, from guests that are the out of control types? If that protection is in place, does that meet the needs?

Or am I missing something obvious?

Thats the crux of it... People are giving out their WIFI passwords and expecting Sonos to solve that problem by keeping people from starting players or changing music selections... because they were given the WIFI passwords.

I see. I for one am glad there isn't one more password to be used, life is complicated enough already. Do TVs of the the day have passwords to prevent channel changing? If no, I hope they never do in future as well!

I see the Wifi password as quite enough to keep Sonos restricted to people I know and trust and don't see any need for another password to remember. I use a hidden network name as well.

I can see the case for this to be optional; I suppose Sonos will do this based on its resource allocation decisions to what it believes are different customer needs and their rankings in terms of importance to them. Does a thread like this affect that process?