One speaker: Multiple groups

I thought smurph already gave a pretty extensive reason why this is a difficult idea to implement (I hesitate to call it a "bad" idea, because it isn't. Big difference between a bad idea and an illogical or impossible to implement idea). The simple fact is: Having a single room be a member of multiple groups sets up a logical problem which is, at the very best, inelegant. It opens up the system to logical questions like "Joe plays music XXX over Group III which includes Rooms A, B, C. Sally comes home and Plays source ZZZ over Group JJJ which includes Rooms C, D, E. What plays in Room C?

Every answer to this is a logistical mess (and believe me, we've heard them all!). There are ideas for popups, warnings, music stoppages, auto switching, not allowing the music to play/Group to be chosen, etc. etc. Every one is inelegant and in Engineering, inelegance is bad, no matter how good an idea it seems at first glance.

I thought smurph already gave a pretty extensive reason why this is a difficult idea to implement (I hesitate to call it a "bad" idea, because it isn't. Big difference between a bad idea and an illogical or impossible to implement idea). The simple fact is: Having a single room be a member of multiple groups sets up a logical problem which is, at the very best, inelegant. It opens up the system to logical questions like "Joe plays music XXX over Group III which includes Rooms A, B, C. Sally comes home and Plays source ZZZ over Group JJJ which includes Rooms C, D, E. What plays in Room C?

Every answer to this is a logistical mess (and believe me, we've heard them all!). There are ideas for popups, warnings, music stoppages, auto switching, not allowing the music to play/Group to be chosen, etc. etc. Every one is inelegant and in Engineering, inelegance is bad, no matter how good an idea it seems at first glance.
ratty and jgatie. Agree with everything you guys describe. Think these can be addressed. so I still fall on the side of giving the customer\user the option. They may find the solution more cumbersome than the current method. Some will love it, some will question the decision. All about options for the customer for me.

ratty and jgatie. Agree with everything you guys describe. Think these can be addressed. so I still fall on the side of giving the customer\user the option. They may find the solution more cumbersome than the current method. Some will love it, some will question the decision. All about options for the customer for me.

The problems/complaints about the new "Tap to play" function aside, Sonos tends to stay away from the "more cumbersome", even if it means more features for a certain set of users. I believe one Room belonging to multiple groups is an area they have erred on the side of "simple is better", and rightfully so.

Here's the rub with "simple is better" whose definition of simple are they using? I get what you're saying. I still want it.

Here's the rub with "simple is better" whose definition of simple are they using? I get what you're saying. I still want it.

I'd be glad to get into a logical down-the-rabbit hole like analysis of "what happens if you do this" scenarios that prove what definition of simple applies, but I've done it all before, and quite frankly it's boring. I also thought I dipped enough of a toe into the rabbit hole with my post above to see where this leads.

Respect your opinion and appreciate the dialog.. Best to you.

I would really appreciate having players in multiple groups and don't think it needs to be a problem. The tech heads should give us normal people some credit.

If I am watching a film using the TV group and my wife wants to listen to some music she would select kitchen or bedroom etc and not house. If she mistakenly does select wholehouse my film audio would be replaced by my wife's music at which point I would politely ask her not to interrupt my film and go to my sonos app, start the film audio on TV and my wife's music would stop because my group has now taken priority over hers. My would would then restart her music selecting kitchen. The logic needs to stop a group playing if it has a shared player which has just been selected by another group thus avoiding a technical conflict. It would not take long for everyone to get the hang of this simple logic.

Can anyone spot a serious floor (not a technical purist one) in my logic?

Sonos please add this feature and I will buy more sonos players. I am many other people would too 😉 😉

It's all been said before, earlier in this thread.(several times in fact).

I would politely ask her not to interrupt my film and go to my sonos app, start the film audio on TV and my wife's music would stop because my group has now taken priority over hers. I am pleased to hear of the happy state of your marriage but I fear this could put some couples into the divorce courts. It sounds a complete and unnecessary nightmare that would never get past beta if it made it that far. As has been said before, group presets, yes please. Multiple membership, no thanks.

I have a perfect marriage, just ask my wife, she will tell you what I think.

I don't see how group presets solve the problem?

I guess we will just have to disagree.

My offer to sonos stands - I will buy several new players if you solve this problem (I do not mind how but please just do it)........ money usually talks