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Paul Sinnema
Contributor I
December 10, 2014

Not very elegant Sonos and Apple

  • December 10, 2014
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Hi,

Today happened what I dreaded for some time. I was forced to update my Sonos systems and now both my iPad 1 tablets will not work with Sonos anymore. We have them wall-mounted so we can control music all over the place. I am very disappointed to say the least. We had planned to buy some more Sonos systems but the announcement at the beginning of this year stopped us. I hate companies that don't give me control over what is mine. Sonos nor Apple own the gear at my home, I do.

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      ratty
      ratty
      December 19, 2014
      Be curious to know if it provides all the features the official app does.
      From http://sonopad.com/
      Limitations
      All music services except Last.FM and Amazon Cloud Music are supported
      No portrait mode on the main screen of your iPad yet.
      No playing of music stored on iPad yet-
      No options to set alarms or sleep settings
      No support for discontinued WD100 dock
      the_lhc
      Avid Contributor I
      December 19, 2014
      No playing of music stored on iPad yet-

      I suspect that's the main one that requires the later iOS versions.
      ratty
      ratty
      December 19, 2014
      I suspect that's the main one that requires the later iOS versions.
      That could be it. Although the ability to stream local iOS content came in at 3.8.3, the requirement for iOS 6+ appeared at 3.8 (possibly anticipating 3.8.3).
      dinkeldorf
      Avid Contributor I
      December 21, 2014
      It's an interesting feature / version trade-off. I wonder how many folks stream from device? It's not a thing in our place (complete music library and many services) but I guess part of BYOM?
      billiejoe87
      Chromatic Producer I
      July 18, 2018
      Please, not this discussion again. There are numerous threads about that in this forum already.

      And there are numerous reasons why it is like it is. Blame Apple, not Sonos in this case.

      How is it Apple's fault? The Original iPad is now over 8 years old and well outside what anyone could have expected the lifespan of what is essentially a large mobile device to be. Apple haven't suddenly bricked the device (aka the Sonos CR100), they just stopped making updated software for it. Sonos are the ones who have decided to not allow the older software to control their system anymore, not apple.

      I hate people blaming apple for making things obsolete. An 9 year old, late 2009 MacBook is still compatible with the latest MacOS High Sierra and a 5 year old iPhone is still compatible with the latest iOS which once again is almost unheard of for a mobile phone.
      1 x Arc, 1 x Beam Gen 2, 1 x Amp, 2 x Sonos In Ceiling Speakers, 2 x Sub, 4 x Sonos Ones, 2 x Sonos Era 100, 5 x Symfonisk Lamp (Gen 2)
        John B
        July 18, 2018
        And the ZP80 is still going strong, and that is also irrelevant. What is happening here is that the iPad can no longer cope with what Sonos now does, not the other way round. The solution would be to buy a newer Apple product. Buying a new Sonos product would not help. You don't have to believe the obsolescence is deliberate to recognise that it is the Apple product that is obsolete, in this context anyway.
        Thunderbyte
        Thunderbyte
        Prominent Collaborator I
        July 18, 2018

        I hate people blaming apple for making things obsolete. An 9 year old, late 2009 MacBook is still compatible with the latest MacOS High Sierra and a 5 year old iPhone is still compatible with the latest iOS which once again is almost unheard of for a mobile phone.

        1. Have you read the whole thread? I have said that devices get left behind, because their max API level is too low for the minimum API needed for a certain function of an app - or that function cannot be offered. And I am completely fine with that, as long as app programmers don't exaggerate with using only the latest and greatest.

        2. You are seriously answering to a 3 year old thread???
        1 Playbar | 1 Sub | 2x Play:5 | 1x Play:3 | 2x Play:1 | 1x Sonos One
        billiejoe87
        Chromatic Producer I
        July 18, 2018

        I hate people blaming apple for making things obsolete. An 9 year old, late 2009 MacBook is still compatible with the latest MacOS High Sierra and a 5 year old iPhone is still compatible with the latest iOS which once again is almost unheard of for a mobile phone.

        1. Have you read the whole thread? I have said that devices get left behind, because their max API level is too low for the minimum API needed for a certain function of an app - or that function cannot be offered. And I am completely fine with that, as long as app programmers don't exaggerate with using only the latest and greatest.

        2. You are seriously answering to a 3 year old thread???

        1. I was replying to your comment about blaming apple rather than Sonos for an update being incompatible.

        2. I did not realise this was a 3 year old thread. My bad. It showed up as a related topic to another topic I was looking at, so I read it. I would not have replied had I realised the last post was 3 years ago. Sorry.
        1 x Arc, 1 x Beam Gen 2, 1 x Amp, 2 x Sonos In Ceiling Speakers, 2 x Sub, 4 x Sonos Ones, 2 x Sonos Era 100, 5 x Symfonisk Lamp (Gen 2)
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