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Contributor I
December 10, 2014

Not very elegant Sonos and Apple

  • December 10, 2014
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Hi,

Today happened what I dreaded for some time. I was forced to update my Sonos systems and now both my iPad 1 tablets will not work with Sonos anymore. We have them wall-mounted so we can control music all over the place. I am very disappointed to say the least. We had planned to buy some more Sonos systems but the announcement at the beginning of this year stopped us. I hate companies that don't give me control over what is mine. Sonos nor Apple own the gear at my home, I do.

Paul
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    Avid Contributor I
    December 10, 2014
    Hi,

    Today happened what I dreaded for some time. I was forced to update my Sonos systems and now both my iPad 1 tablets will not work with Sonos anymore. We have them wall-mounted so we can control music all over the place. I am very disappointed to say the least. We had planned to buy some more Sonos systems but the announcement at the beginning of this year stopped us. I hate companies that don't give me control over what is mine. Sonos nor Apple own the gear at my home, I do.

    Paul


    There is a third party sonos app on the play store that works with the iPad 1 and sonos, not got it myself but it has been recommended on this forum. Have a search !
    ratty
    December 10, 2014
    Folks speak highly of SonoPad, as a third party alternative supporting iOS5.1.1+.

    Search the forums.
    Thunderbyte
    Prominent Collaborator I
    December 10, 2014
    Please, not this discussion again. There are numerous threads about that in this forum already.

    And there are numerous reasons why it is like it is. Blame Apple, not Sonos in this case.
    1 Playbar | 1 Sub | 2x Play:5 | 1x Play:3 | 2x Play:1 | 1x Sonos One
    Avid Contributor I
    December 11, 2014
    When will people realize Apples planned obselecence. Keep buying apple stuff over and over and over again.
    Avid Contributor I
    December 13, 2014
    That must be frustrating! Flush the iPad1 on Craigslist or something. You'd be surprised what you can get.

    The challenge with all CE is innovation vs stability. Sonos do a great job balancing this. Maybe you don't need a full iPad to replace the Gen 1, would a mini a refurb or a 'droid do? For many assets I'm a believer in buy and hold but for some I turn over quite frequently.
    Thunderbyte
    Prominent Collaborator I
    December 13, 2014
    For many assets I'm a believer in buy and hold but for some I turn over quite frequently.

    For Apple devices, a rapid turnover works very well, the prices you can get after e.g. one year on eBay or other sites are great! I tend to sell my old stuff and buy new devices as soon as they come out. That works great for iPhones, iPads, even Macs.
    1 Playbar | 1 Sub | 2x Play:5 | 1x Play:3 | 2x Play:1 | 1x Sonos One
    reddot
    December 14, 2014
    When will people realize Apples planned obselecence. Keep buying apple stuff over and over and over again.

    Are any mobile devices any different? I have an original Motorola Droid (from 2009) and it's nigh unusable now. The same is true of my iPhone 3GS (from 2007). My iPhone 4S performs much better than the Droid does, while running an up to date OS, unlike the Droid. Yes, it's a little slow, but it's a pretty weak machine.

    The original iPad was released in 2010, about 4 years ago, which is like 28 years in dog years! 😉 So cut it some slack.

    Seriously, mobile devices are still in their growth stage, like laptops were 6 years ago, or desktops 10 years ago. They're still finding the asymptote on their easily attainable power curve. These days, you can get a laptop for $200 that's decent enough for light tasks.

    If you buy a recent vintage computer, you should have very little to worry about subsequent OS upgrades needing too many resources. We're not quite there yet with tablets and mobile phones, but we will be in a few years.

    To the OP, use SonoPad. It works more like the original Sonos app than the current one, so you might like it better.
    Enthusiast I
    December 14, 2014
    When will people realize Apples planned obselecence. Keep buying apple stuff over and over and over again.

    Never heard such codswallop! Apple is among the best in keeping compatibility for old devices.

    The issue here lies totally at Sonos's door. Luckily third parties have come to the rescue.
    Thunderbyte
    Prominent Collaborator I
    December 14, 2014
    I totally agree to reddot's post. Thank you.:)

    Never heard such codswallop! Apple is among the best in keeping compatibility for old devices.

    The issue here lies totally at Sonos's door.


    Being an Apple user myself, it is not true, that this is only a Sonos problem. It is all about API levels. If Sonos wants to offer cool, new functions, the have to let go older devices. That - up to now - has only happened mid 2014 to the iPad 1, a device Apple has abandoned with iOS 6 already in September 2012.

    The iPad 1 was the first of its kind, the level of improvements from iPad 1 to iPad Air 2 are incredible: the Air2's CPU is 12x faster, the GPU 180x faster (source)! No wonder that it is left behind.

    Btw., that improvement does not even come close to the PC's first years. 2 decades ago it was completely normal, that a computer is not fast enough anymore 2 years. Why should a 4,5 (!!!!!) old device still be supported.

    Besides all that, the iPad2 is still supported with iOS8, because it was technically possible (presumably because of the 512 MB RAM, instead of 256 MB). Good luck installing Android 5 on a device from spring 2011!:p
    1 Playbar | 1 Sub | 2x Play:5 | 1x Play:3 | 2x Play:1 | 1x Sonos One
    Avid Contributor I
    December 14, 2014
    Never heard such codswallop! Apple is among the best in keeping compatibility for old devices.

    The issue here lies totally at Sonos's door. Luckily third parties have come to the rescue.


    Absolute nonsense, Sonos is still supporting v 2.x android devices even after android v5 has been released, why? Because the OS allows them to. iOS doesn't without dropping lots of features they want to implement, so they can't maintain compatibility. You really couldn't be more wrong.