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Avid Contributor I
February 6, 2020
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How do you know from app what songs are Amazon HD?

  • February 6, 2020
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So, allegedly, Amazon HD is supported on Sonos.

How does one know what songs are in HD and what are not?  I don’t see any of this indicated on the Sonos app.   Is every song in the upgraded HD format and we should just presume we are getting that quality?

Thanks in advance

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Best answer by ratty

Not every track is in HD, and unfortunately there’s no way in the Sonos controller to tell which is and which is not. 

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ratty
February 8, 2020

Anyone have an optimal setting?

Don’t want MP3 quality.

 

There’s CD-16bits/441,kHz

24-Bit H-Res/up to 96 kHz

24-Bit Hi-Res/up to 192 kHz

 

This will be for the car.  I have a Lincoln with a top-end Revel audio system.  So, quality audio is a must

For a car? CD 16/44.1, though arguably you could simply use 320 MP3 and not notice any difference.

24/192 is nonsensical, especially as it would require 6 times the bandwidth of 16/44. You’ll never have an ambient noise floor low enough to appreciate 24-bit or superhuman hearing able to make out 40kHz ultrasonics in the content.

NJRonboAuthor
Avid Contributor I
February 8, 2020

Thanks, Ratty.   You saved me a lot of excess data usage.

I will set it to CD quality.

chickentender
February 8, 2020

Good suggestion by Ratty. 192khz makes zero sense except on the best of systems and even then is debatable. And data usage/data storage needed on a mobile device is silly comparatively.

On the Qobuz phone app (as you’ve found) you can specify different settings “on wi-fi” and “on mobile network” (or some similar verbiage) for max res. On my phone in general I’m only using CD quality for wi-fi and 320kbps on mobile-network (as mentioned). You can also specify those same settings for downloaded off-line content (which is really easy to do in the Qobuz app, e.g. grabbing albums for off-line). 

The only time I’m allowing full res is on my main streamer at home - though I’ve noticed very little content is available at 192kHZ; the bulk is usually 24/96, or more commonly 24/44 or 24/48.

Getting into hearing difference in hi-res is the most tired of tired topics and I won’t do that here. I do believe some can and some cannot, but it’s a giant diminishing return regardless and CD quality 16/44 is usually more than good enough (personally or generally).

chickentender
February 8, 2020

Hey @Ryan S or @Andy B or other…. I’ve had two posts spam-blocked. Could you please release them from the jail? Cheers.

 

Moderator Note: Posts flagged as Spam in error have been restored.

chickentender
February 8, 2020

Thanks, Ratty.   You saved me a lot of excess data usage.

I will set it to CD quality.

I have mine on (the phone app) set to 320kbps for streaming over mobile network, but I download in CD quality for offline (when I’m on wi-fi). Helps with bandwidth/data out and about when just streaming (avoids consumption as well as drop-outs) but can still listen to CD version in the car from off-line albums (without having to go into settings and switch to that “mode” as you do in some apps) just by selecting “Offline Library” from the main ribbon at the bottom of the app.

Airgetlam
February 8, 2020

I’m always fascinated by when this happens to me, trying to figure out what in my posts triggered the ‘filter’. In a few instances, I think it was links, but not always. InSided, the provider of this forum’s software claims it’s a ‘smart’ filter, but sometimes I have doubts.

Bruce
chickentender
February 8, 2020

I’m always fascinated by when this happens to me, trying to figure out what in my posts triggered the ‘filter’. In a few instances, I think it was links, but not always. InSided, the provider of this forum’s software claims it’s a ‘smart’ filter, but sometimes I have doubts.

I just had a third blocked 10 minutes ago. Quite short and no links. We’ll see if this one I’m typing in reply makes it out. Seems to have something to do with frequency and length of posts as well… but I dunno. I have doubts as well.

NJRonboAuthor
Avid Contributor I
February 10, 2020

As much as I love Qobuz, it looks like I am going to have to cancel it.

 

First, I signed up for a free month and immediately received a solid $150+ charge on my credit card.  This is not a pending charge.

Second, I can’t log into Quboz via CarPlay even if I am logged into the app on my iPhone.

So, I wrote the company and told them if they are going to charge me right out of the gate and I can’t even log into Carplay, to cancel my account

 

chickentender
February 10, 2020

As much as I love Qobuz, it looks like I am going to have to cancel it.

 

First, I signed up for a free month and immediately received a solid $150+ charge on my credit card.  This is not a pending charge.

Second, I can’t log into Quboz via CarPlay even if I am logged into the app on my iPhone.

So, I wrote the company and told them if they are going to charge me right out of the gate and I can’t even log into Carplay, to cancel my account

 

Uh-oh. Hmmm… Not sure about the charge. I know I didn’t select annual when I first signed, but rather 30-day free trial which would have defaulted to monthly at $15 after the 30 days, but there was no initial charge. However after 3 or 4 days I was ready to sign up and had to switch my plan to annual for that discount price (and it warned me my trial would expire). Best I can think is the annual, if chosen at onset, might just have a 30-day money-back sort of arrangement and/or your subscription would wind up being for 13-months perhaps? I really don’t know.

Re: Carplay, have you gotten in touch with their support? Unfortunately that’s not a topic I’ll be of any help with (Android land over here). I wrote them about an issue with track metadata (definitely not a mission critical problem) and they were pretty responsive. https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/help/contact

NJRonboAuthor
Avid Contributor I
February 11, 2020

I did write customer support about the charge after starting the trial and after 24 hours I have yet to hear back. I am certain I eventually will and I can easily dispute the charge on my credit card.

I had the opportunity to listen to Qobuz in my car, which remarkably is my most critical and favorite place to listen to music.  Despite advice I was given here, I did set the streaming to one notch above CD quality.   I am really amazed at how clean the audio is in my vehicle.  I have decent audio in my Lincoln and it just sounds so much better than anything else before it.   I miss the days of cars having DVD-A access and this is just the replacement I needed.

I am still tracking the data usage but I have a 75GB per month plan with Verizon.

The problem with Carplay?  It works if you plug your iPhone into the head unit.  It’s just that the interface does not.  The interface will not connect.  I can skip music and go to the next track using my steering wheel control, but I can’t see what song/artist is playing unless I open my phone and look at the app.

I will try and get this straightened out with their tech team (thanks for the link).  I am just angry these guys charged me for an alleged first-month trial.