Home Automation Integration.... Specifically Apple HomeKit

So go spend $50 on an Echo Dot. Integration of Alexa with Sonos is announced and in the works. Homekit is lagging the market, so unlikely Sonos is interested just now.

I won´t do that - even if it only costs about 60€.

Apple/Siri (nearly) does ist all for me WITHOUT buying an additional "SPY" which is always connected with the cloud!!!

I won´t do that - even if it only costs about 60€.

Apple/Siri (nearly) does ist all for me WITHOUT buying an additional "SPY" which is always connected with the cloud!!!

There is no evidence that Echo listening has ever been misused while covert monitoring of cell phone microphones is common and happens much more frequently than people realize. If this is a real concern for you then you need to get rid of you cell phone first and worry about lesser threats like Echo only after your primary risk has been neutralized.

There is no evidence that Echo listening has ever been misused while covert monitoring of cell phone microphones is common and happens much more frequently than people realize. If this is a real concern for you then you need to get rid of you cell phone first and worry about lesser threats like Echo only after your primary risk has been neutralized.

Exactly. There is nothing different about the Echo microphones that makes them more likely to be used to "SPY" on a user. Neither a button nor a "wake up" word prevents a malicious programmer/hacker/corporation/government from enabling a microphone for spying, and a phone follows you everywhere you go. As far as being "always connected with the cloud!!!", does the poster really believe Siri is not connected to the cloud?

There is a big difference:
you can "listen" to cellphones for sure but you have to intrude individually!

With Amazon Echo there is already a established connection into my house -24hours 7 days

AND of course I'm not willing to buy extra stuff when the existing phone could do the job!!!

There is a big difference:
you can "listen" to cellphones for sure but you have to intrude individually!

With Amazon Echo there is already a established connection into my house -24hours 7 days

AND of course I'm not willing to buy extra stuff when the existing phone could do the job!!!

I'm not sure I see the difference. Why is intruding into individual cellphones any more difficult/secure than intruding into individual Echo devices? Also, you do know you can explicitly tell Echo to not listen and require a physical touch to wake up (ala the Tap)?

Also, what makes you think there is not just as much an "established connection" between your phone and the cloud as there is between Echo and the cloud? Matter of fact, Echo is WiFi only, and unless you turn on airplane mode, your phone's connection is 24/7 wherever you carry it. Even Echo can't hear you through walls or outside on the patio.

On the last point, well yes, you would need to buy another device. However, something makes me think that the day Apple releases their own version of the Echo or Dot, you'll be right there in line at the Apple Store. 😉

of course I'm not willing to buy extra stuff when the existing phone could do the job!!!

So your phone has a microphone array that can easily understand what you're saying from across the room while you're playing music? Sure hasn't been my experience with Siri, who has a difficult enough time under the best conditions. IME Alexa is vastly superior than Siri at comprehending my utterances.

While I agree Alexa's ability to hear and understand is better than Siri, the latter has made rather large adjustments with ios10, and you don't have to talk like a robot to the robot anymore. Apple CarPlay with Siri is actually extremely useful now, where before it got frustrating repeating requests. It also seems to pick up "hey Siri" much better and can perform different tasks than before.
Updates to mac to now include Siri are a nice addition, tho I have yet to really tap into this potential yet.

Apple vs android.... a pointless battle. Way I see it, Apple fell behind in bringing shocking new tech to the mainstream, but they do tend to perfect it with an incredibly seamless interface when they catch up.

I hope Sonos ties into HomeKit. tbey were quick to work Apple Music into the fold, why not this?