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FULL spotify integration (and other 3rd parties)

Forum|Forum|13 years ago
May 17, 2013
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Now while its great to see that Spotify radio is going to make it into the Controller app, having used Spotify for a few weeks now on my Sonos system i think Sonos need to go a step further. In effect i think that the spotify app, for ipad for instance needs full integration into the Sonos system (as it does for Napseter etc) What ive found annoying to date is that if im playing a tune on my Sonos system that i like, i then have to go to the Spotify app, search, and find that tune, then click on the star button for example so that its added to my Sonos Controller. That kind of functionality should be included by default.

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Ryan S

Retired Sonos Staff

So, my Android controller is now at 5.4.29490090 after having downloaded and installed the beta. But the choices when I select Spotify are just as before, no browse or anything else that you would expect to be there. Suggestions?

The latest version for the Android beta controller can be downloaded here.

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So, my Android controller is now at 5.4.29490090 after having downloaded and installed the beta. But the choices when I select Spotify are just as before, no browse or anything else that you would expect to be there. Suggestions?

Ok, thanks. I now have the correct version. However, there are no more Spotify choices than before (I've even tried to re-add the account). The five menu choices when I select Spotify are, as before: - Playlists - Starred - New releases - Favourites - Inbox

Ryan S

Retired Sonos Staff

So, my Android controller is now at 5.4.29490090 after having downloaded and installed the beta. But the choices when I select Spotify are just as before, no browse or anything else that you would expect to be there. Suggestions?

Sounds like you don't have the beta flagged for your system properly. From your account, it looks like your system isn't flagged for the public beta on the website page. Can you follow the directions here to get your system setup for the beta? After that point you can update your players and you should be all set.

Let me know if you still have trouble.

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So, my Android controller is now at 5.4.29490090 after having downloaded and installed the beta. But the choices when I select Spotify are just as before, no browse or anything else that you would expect to be there. Suggestions?

It said that "You are active" when I selected the Sonos beta tab - but, now I selected "leave" and then "join" again in the Beta program, and now the controller actually update itself as it should, so now it's working. 🙂

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Niall_3

Contributor I

Two years is way too long for this feature to be implemented (is this the first official response in two years???). Interesting that this has happened once the competition has heated up for both Sonos and Spotify? I gave up waiting a couple of months ago and moved over to Google Play AA. I've put time into migrating over to Google It does everything I needed. No chance I'm going through the drama moving back to Spotify.

Chris

Lead Maestro

So, my Android controller is now at 5.4.29490090 after having downloaded and installed the beta. But the choices when I select Spotify are just as before, no browse or anything else that you would expect to be there. Suggestions?

There has been no wait for announcement. Sonos said from the very beginning they were not implementing spotify connect. There has been no wait. You may want spotify connect and i can understand why but they have not been ambiguous at all in he fact they were not implementing. Wow is Google working. I assume you have an android device so with Google you are dong the same as spotify connect. I went deezer for quality and locked in long term with the discount but j have heard Google has the best library (my son won't leave rhapsody though).

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oavaldez

Contributor I

So, my Android controller is now at 5.4.29490090 after having downloaded and installed the beta. But the choices when I select Spotify are just as before, no browse or anything else that you would expect to be there. Suggestions?

Having migrated away from Sonos to Spotify-connect enabled hardware, I feel the same way: I'm not going back to Sonos to a crippled Spotify implementation.

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Serge_1

Lyricist III

"We aren't integrating Spotify Connect at this time,..."
For a second I thought we were finally getting what we wanted i.e. Spotify connect but yet another disillusion.
I stated to work to select a Spotify connect replacement hardware to my Sonos equipment. I won't stop as I am tired to wait for Sonos which is delaying a decision they won't be able to delay forever. Competition is going to eat you!
What a shame.

nicka99

Local Superstar

@Niall - I agree, 2 years was way too long. Many will have switched music providers and others switched hardware - both Spotify and Sonos will have lost through out this delay. I have a Spotify Connect enabled device (Panasonic ALL1C) connected via my Playbar as a workaround to the pi$$ poor Sonos implementation until now. Im going to keep my Spotify Connect solution as a backup and see how the Sonos implementation now improves further. For example if Artist and Album are not added to 'Your Music' within the following 1-2 releases then I will become nervous again it will be a further 2 years before this is solved.

Spotify Connect is not perfect. For example it cannot support multiple streams. Its way too easy to lose the music queue e.g. switching devices. The artwork and labels sometime lags behind the music. You have to work in 2 applications to handle (un)grouping and adjusting separate volumes... However, it also has a lot going for it - its the native app so does everything the app can, can be used on way more devices if you are away from home (e.g. amazon fire TV stick, between any mobile device).

Assuming Spotify on Sonos continues to evolve to fill the functionality gaps then I think having Spotify as a music provider will give the best of both worlds. Sonos for multi-room within the home and Spotify Connect for ad-hoc use (e.g. on vacation) or as a Sonos backup if it fails again because its overloaded (Christmas!)

The irony seems that whilst Sonos has spent 2 years blaming Spotify, then we find it took Sonos to update their 'tools' to 'help our partners easily bring new features to the Sonos' and within 1 month Spotify is much improved. Looks like Sonos were the hold up all along to me.

Im very happy so far with the new Spotify features in the beta and hope Sonos now keep up the momentum to improve it further.

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@Niall - I agree, 2 years was way too long. Many will have switched music providers and others switched hardware - both Spotify and Sonos will have lost through out this delay. I have a Spotify Connect enabled device (Panasonic ALL1C) connected via my Playbar as a workaround to the pi$$ poor Sonos implementation until now. Im going to keep my Spotify Connect solution as a backup and see how the Sonos implementation now improves further. For example if Artist and Album are not added to 'Your Music' within the following 1-2 releases then I will become nervous again it will be a further 2 years before this is solved.

Spotify Connect is not perfect. For example it cannot support multiple streams. Its way too easy to lose the music queue e.g. switching devices. The artwork and labels sometime lags behind the music. You have to work in 2 applications to handle (un)grouping and adjusting separate volumes... However, it also has a lot going for it - its the native app so does everything the app can, can be used on way more devices if you are away from home (e.g. amazon fire TV stick, between any mobile device).

Assuming Spotify on Sonos continues to evolve to fill the functionality gaps then I think having Spotify as a music provider will give the best of both worlds. Sonos for multi-room within the home and Spotify Connect for ad-hoc use (e.g. on vacation) or as a Sonos backup if it fails again because its overloaded (Christmas!)

The irony seems that whilst Sonos has spent 2 years blaming Spotify, then we find it took Sonos to update their 'tools' to 'help our partners easily bring new features to the Sonos' and within 1 month Spotify is much improved. Looks like Sonos were the hold up all along to me.

Im very happy so far with the new Spotify features in the beta and hope Sonos now keep up the momentum to improve it further.

Ryan S. from Sonos said in another topic that "The new features in beta with Spotify are more closely associated to the official Spotify web player" which makes me think that Sonos are using the Spotify Web API (https://developer.spotify.com/news-stories/2014/06/17/say-hello-new-web-api/), which was released by Spotify almost exactly one year ago.

If it's the case that Sonos is using the Web API, I think that Sonos can from now on, with the basic implementation already in place, pretty quickly "catch up" to Spotify.

As you are, I'm so far very pleased with the improved Spotify support, though I wouldn't mind having Connect as an option as well. 🙂

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