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Empyreal
Contributor I
February 25, 2013

Feature Request: Export and Import Sonos Playlists

  • February 25, 2013
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Like many users, we use Sonos in two different houses. We have two NAS's of music that I'm planning on keeping synchronized with RSYNC. What doesn't sync or cant get exported are Sonos Playlists. It would be great to be able to ad-hoc export them and then to import them as well. Using the UPnP interface, I've noted a Java program that can export playlists, but importing them is a bit troublesome. It would be great to have this feature.
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    Citrixer
    Lyricist I
    April 13, 2019
    Since the 10 update, SPL.PY no longer works. it comes back with a 'Discover returned no speakers'. Anyone know if this is a new problem or how to fix?
    controlav
    controlav
    Lead Maestro
    April 13, 2019
    Since the 10 update, SPL.PY no longer works. it comes back with a 'Discover returned no speakers'. Anyone know if this is a new problem or how to fix?

    totally unrelated to this thread, but yes, an xml change to Zone data from Sonos broke a number of third party integrations. See other threads about Savant, python-soco and others.
    Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.
    Citrixer
    Lyricist I
    April 15, 2019
    Not so totally unrelated, but thank you anyway
    waynef
    Lyricist II
    June 17, 2019

    Hi folks,

    I foolishly removed my napster account - then added the exact same Napster account back to Sonos (I was strengthening the password) - only to discover that the 10 years worth of playlists can no longer be referenced - ouch. Anybody come across this - or found a workaround?

    I'd love to find a way to export the playlists - and am a developer by trade - so any hints toward a script that works with the latest firmware appreciated.

    Aside from that - the only way out of this I see is to screengrab the page that displays the now broken playlists - OCR that grab - then import the csv via a trans-coder service into a native Napster playlist.

    I've been in touch with Sonos support - and the response has been underwhelming - so am holding hope out for here...

    controlav
    controlav
    Lead Maestro
    June 17, 2019
    waynef: Napster playlists are stored by Napster: a password change will not effect them. So are you referring to a Sonos playlist of Napster tracks? That can be extracted with a UPnP toolset, I use Intel Device Spy. If you install that I can tell you how to extract the playlist, then we should be able to see what changed and hopefully edit it, then re-save it.
    Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.
    waynef
    Lyricist II
    June 17, 2019
    Hi controlav: - yes that's exactly right - Sonos playlists seem to have dereferenced the Napster account - I expect some sort of internal ID associated to my Napster account has now changed. Sounds like a great approach you suggest - anything you can share much appreciated!
    controlav
    controlav
    Lead Maestro
    June 17, 2019
    Looks like you are on an iPad, I have no idea what kind of UPnP tools are available on there, but here is the extraction info (using a PC):
    http://blog.travelmarx.com/2011/01/extracting-sonos-playlist-simple-sonos.html
    (Use SQ: as the arg to browse)
    In the result find a playlist you want to recover. Do a Browse on its id (eg "SQ:42") and that will get you the actual playlist as xml. For each track there is a "res" tag, which will end with "sn=", it is the number that changed when you re-added the account. You'll need to figure out the new "sn" value (make a new playlist with a track from your new Napster account).
    With this all done, the next trick is to upload the edited playlist. Let me know when you're ready for that.
    Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.
    waynef
    Lyricist II
    June 17, 2019
    Excellent - thanks for the pointers... I'll get my Win10 laptop onto the home LAN later this evening and have a play! Many thanks!
    waynef
    Lyricist II
    June 17, 2019
    controlav, do you know if there is a way to import the playlists exported into Napster - such that I can use within Napster in addition to Sonos - and the pros and cons within? I guess the playlist management of Napster lists on Sonos is not great?
    waynef
    Lyricist II
    June 17, 2019
    Hi controlav - I've used the post you pointed me toward - and I've got stuck into a bit of Java programming to create a routine that pulls all of the playLists within the Sonos system - and then dumps them into a single file. This file contains the title, artist, album, playlist name, playlist ID & sn (the ref to the Napster account I've messed up?) - and amongst all the results - I see "0,1,2,3 - and also others that are unknown (local storage mainly). What are next steps?

    I'd like to hear opinions around whether I should be importing these directly into Napster from this point ?
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