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Contributor I
April 10, 2024

Feature request: Apple TV with Sonos App

  • April 10, 2024
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As a custom integrator I feel very strongly that Sonos should have an app on the Apple TV device. I understand that Sonos wants to be able to manage every aspect of their ecosystem but since 99% of my installs has an Apple TV, I think Sonos should offer a paid app to stream directly from the Apple TV. Some clients don’t want a universal remote and just want to use the Apple TV remote, and some control systems don’t work well with Sonos (I’m looking at you Control4). So to me it looks like a niche Sonos can profit from. Make it less than $50 per Apple TV device and I guarantee I can sell that as a line item in every bid. Make it possible for me to purchase licenses and install them in-app and we’ll be good to go. Maybe it’s too much to ask for or perhaps Sonos’ licensing deals with streaming services aren’t able to extend to a third-party device, but I’d be very happy to see this developed one day.

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Sotiris C.
Sonos Staff
April 11, 2024

Hello @Russell.VSS, welcome to Sonos Community!

I’ve marked this thread as a feature request and forwarded it to the appropriate teams for consideration.

Thank you for the feedback and the idea, it is much appreciated.

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controlav
Lead Maestro
April 12, 2024

You seem to be confused: the Sonos app doesn’t stream anything, its a remote control. Its the speakers that do the streaming.

If you want to use your Apple TV remote to control your Sonos, then connect an Xbox Series device, enable CEC control on it, and install my Sonos app o the Xbox. I *think* the Apple TV remote will then control my Xbox app (I am away from my system right now so cannot verify).

Or are you just asking for a Sonos app for your Apple TV?

Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.
Contributor I
April 12, 2024

You seem to be confused:

Not at all.

 

I’m talking about using a Sonos Port on an AVR. I would like an app that turns the Apple TV into a Sonos device, then AirPlay to the other Sonos devices. I understand that it wouldn’t necessarily be able to group over the sonosnet but at best it can airplay to to other Sonos devices. My reasoning is Control4 doesn’t control Sonos outside of favorites. Josh.ai is a similar problem because I have to instruct clients to select the Sonos device on their AVR then have them go to Sonos app, then back again to the remote to control volume.
 

After thinking about this a bit more, the ideal solution I guess would be to give us a Port that has an HDMI with on-screen navigation. That would solve the sonosnet grouping issue. I’m not a fan of Savant or Crestron Home so I’m not familiar enough with them to see if they have full control over the Sonos. 
 

A reason I spec Sonos over other streamers is 1: client familiarity, Sonos has become the xerox of music streaming. 2: Control4 doesn’t have Apple Music and instructing a client to use a single iPad to AirPlay can become a problem. If they’re airplaying from one iPad, they can’t go to another to change the music. Most people use their phone and was they start moving between WAPs the AirPlay can pause or glitch out and lock up. 

Contributor I
April 12, 2024

@controlav i just saw another thread talking about an HDMI on a Port type device 👍🏼 I believe this is where my thought process is leading to. 
 

Admin, feel free to lock this thread since it’s basically repeating others. Thanks

Moderator edit: added link to other thread

Contributor I
April 24, 2024

This sounds like a lot, I still just want an AppleTVOS based Sonos App for consumer convenience.

The TV in my living room has an AppleTv and the TV is connected to a Sonos AMP that drives the in-wall speakers.  It’s great, works like a champ for TV watching in that room.

However, sometimes, I want to broadcast the game sound to other sonos speakers or sonos enabled speakers (e.g. outside).  Not a big deal, I just grab my phone or laptop when I want to do this and group them together.

Other times I want to just play Spotify music ‘everywhere’ and that works great also...but I have to use my phone or laptop to get it going.

it would be nice (in both instances) to manage this from the device I’m already using at the time (i.e. the Apple TV interface).  Manage Group/Ungroup/Volume/etc in addition to connections to AppleMusic/Spotify/Etc for streaming music source management.

Have the dev team run a weekend hack-a-thon to see if they can easily port over the new/upcoming mobile app to TvOS.

-K

melvimbe
April 24, 2024

This sounds like a lot, I still just want an AppleTVOS based Sonos App for consumer convenience.

The TV in my living room has an AppleTv and the TV is connected to a Sonos AMP that drives the in-wall speakers.  It’s great, works like a champ for TV watching in that room.

However, sometimes, I want to broadcast the game sound to other sonos speakers or sonos enabled speakers (e.g. outside).  Not a big deal, I just grab my phone or laptop when I want to do this and group them together.

Other times I want to just play Spotify music ‘everywhere’ and that works great also...but I have to use my phone or laptop to get it going.

it would be nice (in both instances) to manage this from the device I’m already using at the time (i.e. the Apple TV interface).  Manage Group/Ungroup/Volume/etc in addition to connections to AppleMusic/Spotify/Etc for streaming music source management.

Have the dev team run a weekend hack-a-thon to see if they can easily port over the new/upcoming mobile app to TvOS.

-K

 

Sonos just annouced they will be released a webapp on May 7.  This is is supposed to work through every ‘modern browser’.  I don’t have an AppleTV, but I assume it has a safari browser that can theoritically be used to run the Sonos webapp.  Whether that will display well, and can be control via remote, in a different question.  If not now, I think it’s a good sign that Sonos could adapt a version that works well on TVs eventually.

 

Worth nothing though that this is stull just a controller, and not what the original OP is asking for.  The app isn’t going to turn your AppleTV into a Sonos device, and any audio from the AppleTV would need to be wired to a TV and Sonos speaker, not wireless.

Danny
controlav
Lead Maestro
April 24, 2024

 

Sonos just annouced they will be released a webapp on May 7.  This is is supposed to work through every ‘modern browser’.  I don’t have an AppleTV, but I assume it has a safari browser that can theoritically be used to run the Sonos webapp.  Whether that will display well, and can be control via remote, in a different question.  If not now, I think it’s a good sign that Sonos could adapt a version that works well on TVs eventually.

Apple TV has no web browser. TVOS is basically iOS with a very different interaction model (remote instead of touch). I attempted to port my Sonos app a while ago, but it was too painful.

Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.
melvimbe
April 24, 2024

 

Sonos just annouced they will be released a webapp on May 7.  This is is supposed to work through every ‘modern browser’.  I don’t have an AppleTV, but I assume it has a safari browser that can theoritically be used to run the Sonos webapp.  Whether that will display well, and can be control via remote, in a different question.  If not now, I think it’s a good sign that Sonos could adapt a version that works well on TVs eventually.

Apple TV has no web browser. TVOS is basically iOS with a very different interaction model (remote instead of touch). I attempted to port my Sonos app a while ago, but it was too painful.

 

That’s unfortunate.   I meant to check android tv last night, but a quick search this morning shows that it does exist.  Roku does not, Samsung TV OS does.

 

With AppleTV and Roku, it looks like you could do a screen mirror, but that defeats the point.

Danny
Avid Contributor II
April 24, 2024

I’ve never met a web app that I liked, so I’m a bit saddened that Sonos is moving that direction.  One of the nicer things about the iPad app vs airplay is its responsiveness, which I fear will be the most likely thing to suffer.

But having said that, with a web app it should now be a simple task for Sonos to put together an AppleTV interface.  If nothing else, it would be a nice way to display album art.

*cough* when it loads *cough*

Airgetlam
April 24, 2024

From what I’ve read, the web app is an option, not a requirement. There is still going to be the mobile app. Which, as I understand it, will need to be used for ‘admin’ functions such as setup. I perceive the web app as more of a replacement for the desktop apps (Windows/Mac) that have been in ‘maintenance mode’ for many years now. It just a convenience (for some) that it will run on a mobile device as well. My personal plan is to continue to use the mobile app, which will likely look extremely or exactly the same in most cases as the web app. This is merely, from what I’ve seen reported so far, an update of the UI/UX, and not really that much on function. 

Bruce