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tempodeux
Contributor II
January 17, 2022
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Exceed the limitation of the number of managed files (65000 units)

  • January 17, 2022
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Hello,

 

...I just saw that in the Sonos S2 (13.4.1) application on macOS, in the Preferences –> Music Library –> Music Library Settings, in “My music folders on Sonos”, we could point to several folders . In my case, and since I have a Sonos system, I specified a “Music” folder located on my Synology NAS.


My question: is the limitation to 65,000 files imposed by Sonos calculated on a single shared folder or on all the shared folders?...
If so, it could blow up this incomprehensible limitation of Sonos!…


If not, is this limit 65000 units or 65536 units (2 to the power of 16)?…


Finally, does this limit take into account folders and image files (cover)?…


Thank you for your answers...   ;-)

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Best answer by buzz

The hard track limit is 65,000 tracks. There is no file size limit. The library can span up to 16 shares. Cover art does not impact the track count.

There is another limit that one should be aware of. The index is stored in RAM. Therefore, if your metadata is verbose, it is possible that the index will run out of storage before reaching 65,000 tracks. Although not ideal for the human, short file names, such as “1.flac”, … “65000.flac”, etc. will conserve RAM.

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Stanley_4
Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
January 20, 2022

In the app would be handy, but putting it at the Sonos :1400 web server might be less confusing for most Sonos users that don’t use the Music Library functions.

Some of the removed info didn’t have any security impacts that I could see.

    tempodeuxAuthor
    Contributor II
    February 18, 2022

    Hello, I just added some mp3 files to my database and restarted the indexing. And I got this message pretty quickly:

    “Insufficient space to update your music library. Delete unused playlists or saved playlists and try again.”

    “Espace insuffisant pour mettre à jour votre bibliothèque musicale. Supprimez les listes non utilisées ou les listes de lecture enregistrées et réessayez.”

    So I deleted all the Reading Lists, i.e. the 125 lists that I no longer used. I restarted the indexing and, again, I got the same message of refusal!... I then directly deleted mp3 files from my music database on my NAS: I had 64724 mp3 files and after deletion, I am now at 64000 mp3 files. And the indexing was able to take place.

    Otherwise, I find it quite... particular that the macOS application is much poorer in functions and that some of them are only accessible on tablet or mobile!... Why these limitations?...

    Finally, if you want to delete Reading Lists, you have to do it one by one: we think we're dreaming!... So I deleted more than 100 of them and it took too long minutes of manipulation! ...

    buzz
    buzz
    Grand Maestro
    February 19, 2022

    The phone/pad controllers are full function, desktop controllers are limited function. For day to day system operation I prefer to use a desktop controller, but I must use a phone/pad controller for configuring the system.

    The hard limit is 65,000 tracks. In addition, there is a space limit for the library index and playlists. You are hitting the space limit. Shorter file names would be the easiest solution. For example, I’ve noticed that some rippers will include the words of the first stanza of an opera in the file name. In my opinion this is excessive because “01.FLAC” would be sufficient in most cases. While not ideal for the human, all of your tracks could be piled into a single folder and named “1.FLAC” … “65000.FLAC”.

    There is no limit to track file size.

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