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ckishappy
Contributor I
June 8, 2020
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Does Sonos S2 support SMB V2 V3?

  • June 8, 2020
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I just updated flawlessly to S2 & V12. Are SMB shares with v2 or better v3 supported by now?

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    Best answer by Wanderlust

    Release notes for S2 v13.4.1 confirm support was added for SMBv2 and SMBv3 shares, installed it yesterday and it has been running great against a Synology backed library. I am very pleased that this has been finally added, getting SMBv1 out of environments is great for security!

    https://support.sonos.com/s/article/3521?language=en_US

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    FamilyG
    FamilyG
    Lyricist II
    September 21, 2020

    Hi controlav,

    Interesting how you again and again try to divert from the initial question 😉: Why Sonos doesn’t keep their base software updated and secure .. (the SMBv1 limitation is an example that apparently affect customers and sets the expectation about the quality of the underlaying system)

     

    The answer to the original question is simple: No. Not at this time. No diversion necessary.

    The reason for SMBv1 on the Sonos S1 system has been well documented for years: the players’ Linux kernel is too old to support the newer versions of Samba.

    With the move to S2 there is the possibility of updating the Linux kernels on the newer devices, and when/if they do that then newer versions of Samba become available. This whole area has been de-prioritized since the popularity of streaming took off, so who knows whether it will happen.

     

    Thanks for the update!

    This type of honest direct answers is much more appreciated than the sugar-coated sales stuff you tried at first.

    Then I know that I’ll have to continue to use my bridging VM to get access to my local music

      David Kirk
      Lyricist I
      September 21, 2020

      I feel that I have just wasted a load of money, upgrading a couple of Sonos devices to be S2 compatible, but now I can’t connect my QNAP NAS because of the SMB v1 issue.

        Airgetlam
        Airgetlam
        September 21, 2020

        So far, there has been a single version of S2, with a few bug updates. It may be worth waiting for a full new version before throwing away your current equipment?

        However, if you’re unwilling to wait, I’d be happy to purchase them for $2.00 each, plus shipping. 

        Bruce
        airforceteacher
        airforceteacher
        Headliner I
        September 21, 2020

        or should I say tree-fiddy

          amun
          September 21, 2020

          I feel that I have just wasted a load of money, upgrading a couple of Sonos devices to be S2 compatible, but now I can’t connect my QNAP NAS because of the SMB v1 issue.

          I don’t understand - if it worked before, it should still work. Surely S1 and S2 still use SMB v1

            TomSH
            Lyricist I
            January 3, 2021

            Hi controlav,

            Interesting how you again and again try to divert from the initial question 😉: Why Sonos doesn’t keep their base software updated and secure .. (the SMBv1 limitation is an example that apparently affect customers and sets the expectation about the quality of the underlaying system)

             

            The answer to the original question is simple: No. Not at this time. No diversion necessary.

            The reason for SMBv1 on the Sonos S1 system has been well documented for years: the players’ Linux kernel is too old to support the newer versions of Samba.

            With the move to S2 there is the possibility of updating the Linux kernels on the newer devices, and when/if they do that then newer versions of Samba become available. This whole area has been de-prioritized since the popularity of streaming took off, so who knows whether it will happen.

            It would take a developer a few hours to get the Sonos https library service running on any NAS that supports .Net Core. I have offered to help on other threads, but no-one seems interested in doing so.


            Dear Sonos Team, please get SMBv2 or SMBv3. Or at least give everybody a clear instruction how to properly configure a Linux Server (Ubuntu 20.04 LTS) to serve the good old music not available on the streaming platforms. HTTPS Library Service? How do I get this installed?

            For me one strenght of SONOS (was) the easy access to a SMB-Share.

            Looking forward to an update…

             

            Tom

              Stanley_4
              Stanley_4
              Grand Maestro
              January 4, 2021

              These instructions for SMB v1 access are targeted at a Raspberry Pi but should be easily converted for any recent Linux distribution. If you have a NAS (any share protocol) now the Gateway is the cleanest solution, if not the v1 Server version works well.

              Live Journal https://stan-miller.livejournal.com/

               

              I’d love to see more on the HTTPS Library Service aimed at Linux systems.

                llalonde
                Contributor I
                February 8, 2021

                Here’s a message from one of the main developpers of Samba (Jeremy Allison):

                “Just a quick warning. For now . Eventually we will pull
                SMB1 support from Samba as it is too costly to maintain
                resource wise. The client support will probably be
                maintained a little longer, but I'm really looking
                forward to removing it from the server code.

                But today is not that day .”

                So, Sonos devs, please get this going ASAP please!

                  Stanley_4
                  Stanley_4
                  Grand Maestro
                  February 8, 2021

                  Sonos may be able to get the newer options working in S2 systems but I’m pretty sure it just won’t fit into an S1 system.

                  Maybe drop SMB completely (freeing up some memory) and come up with a way for a NAS to connect like Windows and Mac do now?

                  llalonde
                  Contributor I
                  February 8, 2021

                  Perhaps their plan is to completely remove NAS support and offer only online streaming.   If they do that, I’ll not be buying Sonos anymore… and selling the ones I have to some poor sucker!

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