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Contributor I
August 25, 2016

Control Sonos remotely?

  • August 25, 2016
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I've seen a post that was over a year old about this so I figured that I would start a new topic. Firstly, I think that Sonos has the best sounding, easy to set up, and easy to use system out there. I have had nothing negative to say until this morning.

This morning, when I arrived to work I opened up my Google Play tab and started a playlist. After the first song, it stopped with an error saying: "Can't play music on two devices at once." Dang, I must have forgotten the speaker in my bedroom on and did not hear it on the way out.

I am sure that I am not the only one that has had this issue. Apart from being able to solve this issue with the ability to control the system remotely, there are several other reasons why this feature would be great.

1.) Forgot to turn off system before leaving
2.) Left early or gone for vacation but you've not disabled your alarms
3.) You work from home and have to VPN into work, which causes the inability to control Sonos
4.) Remote support, for example, if you are in IT and the front desk has a Sonos but is having a problem (a user error rather than bad hardware)
5.) Sound systems that are in elderly homes, for example, my grandmother that has one and occasionally has some problems.
6.) Having the sound systems in environments that have multiple Wi-Fi connections, e.g. Company-Secured and Company-Guest. Many enterprise networks do not allow these to talk, so you need to swap your Wi-Fi over to control the system. Also, a large majority of companies that have Guest Wi-Fi do not allow communication between devices on that network.

Thinking about the problem, it is simple: controlling your system remotely, like you can with LIFX or Nest is a useful feature. The solution however, is probably quite the undertaking. Seeing as how phones automatically connect to any Sonos system that is on Wi-Fi, it seems that there would be a lot of core changes as well as added security. I think the first three points are the most important and useful. The last three points are examples but may not actually be intended use for Sonos (there are other Enterprise sound systems out there that handle this).

My workaround (since this has happened a few times now) is that I installed Chrome Remote Desktop on my desktop at home. I can remotely log in and open the Sonos app to turn off the system.

Perhaps this feature can be rolled out slowly, i.e. add functionality to stop music first to avoid some issues described above and then have other features rolled out after. Either way, what does everyone think?

Would you like capability to control your Sonos sound remotely?

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46 replies

Chris
Lead Maestro
August 25, 2016
Sounds like you have it setup well. You could also set an alarm that goes off at say 9am each day and would turn off your speaker.
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Contributor I
August 25, 2016
Hey Chris, that is an interesting idea. That would potentially solve the problem that I face, which is fantastic!

I don't like having to use a workaround, but I think I can be happy for know. There are still other problems to address too 🙂. The VPN one affects me, so I have to disconnect to use the app and then reconnect. Not a huge deal, it's just annoying if I am connected to 2 or 3 servers/switches and need to reconnect.
Chris
Lead Maestro
August 25, 2016
Yea with the alarm you can set it for a certain time. It has to play something but you can tell it to only play for 15 minutes and cut off (but it could be some local files). You could even use a short silent mp3 to play and then it would effectively cut off the speaker.

Download blank mp3 here http://www.xamuel.com/blank-mp3s/
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Ken_Griffiths
August 25, 2016
Do we really need Sonos to add such functionality, which would likely be rarely used, if not completely redundant, for most users ...and there are indeed workarounds to solve such remote access issues.

I personally use some free VPN software called Softether, which is scheduled to run to suit times when I'm away from my home-network and it provides remote access, using secure L2TP/IPSec tunnelling. It allows me to use either an iPad, or iPhone, as a VPN client and provided I have connected the iOS device via a WIFI/Mifi network of some sort (doesn't have to use same SSID/Password), it will allow me to open the installed Sonos Controller on the remote device, and it behaves as though I was actually on my home LAN. It means there is no requirement to use RDP, although I do use Remote Desktop for other things.

Having said that I hardly ever use this Sonos remote control, maybe once in a blue moon.

One thing perhaps worth mentioning, is we also have remote-access cameras in use at home, when we are away on holiday etc. and there are 'other' mobile apps that allow voice and sound to be passed to Sonos speakers... Those too can be operated remotely, in the same way, over the same VPN software mentioned and so could be useful if you want to maybe try to scare away uninvited guests.

er... I've not used that feature much, either, thank goodness... (touch wood/fingers-x'd).

Though I did scare the wife once and still have the scars to prove it ... ha ha 😃
Contributor I
August 25, 2016
Chris -- thanks for the link. I'll set that up tonight.

Ken -- While you may be able to VPN remotely to your home network, it doesn't work for everyone. Our security here at work (hooray for things including the government and healthcare) does not allow for such connectivity. Any remote connections are blocked by default and are granted if there is a valid business case and security vets it. Also, I am unable to create a VPN connection from my phone as the policy installed on my phone does not allow it.

Over cellular, I can use the Chrome Remote Desktop app to connect to my home PC, which as worked OK.

Also, while I am working from home and connected my work's VPN, the app stops functioning; I disconnect or use my phone.



I am probably part of a small group of Sonos users that have this problem, but I don't think that it invalidates the problem. Its just added functionality that makes the product better. A part from the implementation of this feature, what is the downside?
Chris
Lead Maestro
August 25, 2016
I saw an article where Sonos was awarded a patent for different access methods including outside network via cellular. So seems like they are working on something that may be to your liking.

http://www.cepro.com/article/sonos_patent_describes_ultimate_party_mode_share_the_access_not_the_passwor
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Contributor I
August 25, 2016
Also Ken, most home security systems that have Wi-Fi connected modules are accessible over the internet, without VPN. August Smart Lock, Nest, Philips, Samsung, etc, are all accessible without any additional software/hardware/workarounds.

Obviously, this is a sound system. It makes sense the way it is, but it would help users (whether it is the 1% or the 5% or even the sub 1%) to have this capability.

As I said above too, workarounds aren't solutions; they're band-aids. You can put a band-aid over a cut and you stop bleeding, but the cut and the pain are still present. An interesting post from a few years ago that talks about it http://www.paraesthesia.com/archive/2010/01/29/the-difference-between-a-workaround-and-a-fix.aspx/

Anyway, thanks for the contributions to the discussions 🙂 Learning about new things, especially the voice to Sonos! 😃
Contributor I
August 25, 2016
Chris, thanks for the link. That is actually a perfect use case that affects everyone that has guests over. I have had a few friends/acquaintances over on several different occasions and each time they asked for the Wi-Fi password. Some of them were okay to go to the Guest network, which only has internet access and cannot talk to other hosts, but a few of them wanted to contribute to the playlists on Sonos.

Personally, I don't mind giving that access out since I have my home security on its own VLAN (it can only be accessed via an Ethernet connected device or via the app with my email/password). But I am sure that there are some people that would rather not give out their Wi-Fi if they don't need to.
Chris
Lead Maestro
August 25, 2016
Implication would also be if they are able to access via cellular they could be anywhere not just in your home (so you could use that way outside home).
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Chris
Lead Maestro
August 25, 2016
I use my neighbors Sonos at his house all the time. When I feel like messing with him I'll put on a song from his driveway connected to his wifi.
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