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Avid Contributor I
May 25, 2019

Chromecast functionality

  • May 25, 2019
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Why is Sonos lacking the Chromecast functionality, which basically every 100€ WiFi speaker has. It makes it impossible to use YouTube music ( you have to open the Sonos controller and control it from there instead of just pressing the cast button) and it makes using the Google Assistant unnecessarily cumbersome. You have to specify the speaker after a voice command instead of being able to simply set Sonos as a default speaker. That not enough, it also makes it impossible to cast all audio to Sonos. Sonos always talks about being open and support all platforms, yet after waiting a year longer than Airplay 2 users (which got supported as soon as the service got released), we get a shitty, half-assed service lacking basic functionality. Sonos basically incentivizes people to switch to Google Home Max et al, to use get the full capability from the services.
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Prominent Collaborator I
February 6, 2023

  

Jeez people! Why the bitter attitude? Are you paid by SONOS? 

This doesn't have to be explained but here we go: Problems that users share for ANY device or software, don't apply to the overall user group but only to some (!) 

So its not a surprise that for you this is not an issue - be informed that this thread is not a poll! 

We are MANY having issues with this if you look up online or in other threads here, each with different usage needs.

So give us a break and go comment somewhere your input can be useful instead of negative?

 

ps. I did do my research before buying, this is not something you will typically read as a not supported feature ;)

 

As mentioned, another example that SONOS is not willing to put the same investment for Android, is that the Trueplay Tuning is only available in iOs… 

Which is it? You did your “research before buying & this is not something you will typically read as a not supported feature“ or you “found endless similar posts and requests on the internet” about this feature not being supported. So you “did your research” before buying but missed the “endless posts” on the subject, only seeing them after buying it?

As I stated early, it’s pretty evident you did little to no research (i.e. didn’t Google “Sonos chromecast support”), just made assumptions looking at the Sonos product page, and then got upset when your assumptions weren’t accurate after buying the product and thus decided to redirect your anger and bitterness at Sonos, blaming them for your lack of awareness and responsibility in making sure the product actually had the features you wanted before buying it.

To clarify. There’s nothing wrong with creating a Sonos forum thread (like this one) asking for Chromecast support, so that Android users can get the same functionality as iOS users, thus making purchasing a Sonos product worthwhile for them as well. That’s evident. There’s everything wrong though with assuming that Sonos can magically add this feature on their own without getting permission and licensing from Google. And worst of all, there’s everything wrong with blaming a company for not having a feature that you didn’t research it had in the first place.

Prominent Collaborator I
February 6, 2023

All just rumors as Sonos hasn’t announced anything official yet.  The main source for this came from the same author who stated that you’d be able to use 2 Rays as rear surround upfiring speakers.  I am doubtful that Optimo speakers will be released this year, but bluetooth seems plausible since Roams can already do this...connect to BT and WiFi concurrently and share the BT audio with the rest of the Sonos system.

Correct. It’s been reported but not verified by Sonos themselves. So it is still speculative at this time and we can’t assume it will be added until he product is actually launched. The article source has me hopeful though.

Prominent Collaborator I
February 6, 2023

@Nollind .  I agree with @melvimbe‘s verdict that this is purely speculative and not to be relied on.

One thing for sure is that likening the possible Bluetooth functionality to the way the Play:5 line-in  works doesn’t really make sense.  The Line-in acts as a new source and is wired.  Bluetooth is a method of data transmission and is wireless.

As I noted in my reply to Melvimbe, yes it has been reported but not verified by Sonos, so yes it is still speculative. The article source has me hopeful though. But yes, people shouldn’t assume something in an article is fact and then blame Sonos for not adding the feature to their speakers.

As for the second half of your reply, I’m confused by what you mean. You do realize that you can buy bluetooth adapters that connect to your stereo system as a source, thus relaying sound to all of the speakers throughout your house (be they wired or wireless). Even some amps and receivers have this Bluetooth source capability built in as well.

The number one issue with this though is the Bluetooth delay added on top of the delay relaying the music to the other wireless Sonos speakers. But again, it doesn’t mean it’s not technically possible. It just means the delay from pressing play to actually hearing the music relayed throughout your house on your Sonos speakers would be considerable (i.e. 2-3 seconds maybe?).

For example, if I had a Sonos Play 5, I could add one of these bluetooth adapters to the line-in on the back on my Play 5 and share bluetooth music on my phone throughout my entire house using my Sonos system.

So again, it would be up to Sonos to decided if the bluetooth connection and input to the Sonos speaker is just directly to that speaker only (i.e. a selective singular mode) or it is considered as a “source” that can be relayed to other speakers as well.

PS. Actually I just realized I don’t even need a Play 5 to make this possible. My older TV has L/R analog inputs which I’m currently using for my turntable. So I play a record on my turntable and it routes through my TV to my Beam which I can then relay to all of my other Sonos speakers in my house. If I unplugged my turntable and plugged in this bluetooth adapter with L/R analog, I could stream music via bluetooth throughout my house on my Sonos speakers as well.

melvimbe
February 6, 2023

@Nollind .  I agree with @melvimbe‘s verdict that this is purely speculative and not to be relied on.

One thing for sure is that likening the possible Bluetooth functionality to the way the Play:5 line-in  works doesn’t really make sense.  The Line-in acts as a new source and is wired.  Bluetooth is a method of data transmission and is wireless.

As I noted in my reply to Melvimbe, yes it has been reported but not verified by Sonos, so yes it is still speculative. The article source has me hopeful though. But yes, people shouldn’t assume something in an article is fact and then blame Sonos for not adding the feature to their speakers.

As for the second half of your reply, I’m confused by what you mean. You do realize that you can buy bluetooth adapters that connect to your stereo system as a source, thus relaying sound to all of the speakers throughout your house (be they wired or wireless). Even some amps and receivers have this Bluetooth source capability built in as well.

 

 

I’m not exactly sure what John meant with his 2nd statement.  However, the line in source you have via a Port, Amp, or Five (just listing current products) is a distinct audio source to your system.  You can have something connected to a Port for example, and play it in a different room, without the audio playing on the Port.  Also, the audio is analog and subject to conversion to digital and will automatically delayed for buffering reasons.  It’s why the line in source is not a good choice for TV audio.  This is the same regardless of how the audio gets to the Port (or whatever line in device), whether it be completely wired or use bluetooth adapters.

A Roam getting bluetooth audio is different for a few reasons.  It is wireless and digital, so does not need the same delay.  I could be wrong about this, as I haven’t tested or looked into it much, but it behaves like TV audio, playing immediately on the Roam room and delayed on any grouped rooms.  Not at all confident on that.  Point is though, it’s actually more like TV audio input than line in audio input, but still different then either case.

 

The number one issue with this though is the Bluetooth delay added on top of the delay relaying the music to the other wireless Sonos speakers. But again, it doesn’t mean it’s not technically possible. It just means the delay from pressing play to actually hearing the music relayed throughout your house on your Sonos speakers would be considerable (i.e. 2-3 seconds maybe?).

For example, if I had a Sonos Play 5, I could add one of these bluetooth adapters to the line-in on the back on my Play 5 and share bluetooth music on my phone throughout my entire house using my Sonos system.

So again, it would be up to Sonos to decided if the bluetooth connection and input to the Sonos speaker is just directly to that speaker only (i.e. a selective singular mode) or it is considered as a “source” that can be relayed to other speakers as well.

 

 

If Optimo does have bluetooth audio capabilities, then it seems likely that you would be able to share with other rooms like the Roam does.  However, all modern Sonos speakers do have BLE for setup purposes, so Optimo could be the same in this case.  Also, Sonos bought a company specializing in BLE audio formats, so it could be that Optiomo is equipped with this version of  wireless audio, which may be used for something other then sending audio from your device to Sonos.    I have no idea.  It would be strange for the speaker to have bluetooth and not do typical bluetooth things, but then again, Sonos has never used bluetooth on non-portable speakers, and even the portable ones can’t do things like stereo pairing and taking phone calls.  It’s also strange for a bluetooth speaker to have WiFi streaming capabilities.  🤠

PS. Actually I just realized I don’t even need a Play 5 to make this possible. My older TV has L/R analog inputs which I’m currently using for my turntable. So I play a record on my turntable and it routes through my TV to my Beam which I can then relay to all of my other Sonos speakers in my house. If I unplugged my turntable and plugged in this bluetooth adapter with L/R analog, I could stream music via bluetooth throughout my house on my Sonos speakers as well.

 

In you first case, the TV is converting from analog to digital and sending it to your Beam as TV audio.  Hence no major delays.  In your second scenario, using the line in input, you are converting from audio to digital, back to audio, then back to digital again, with major delay.  A purely bluetooth solution is all digital.

Don’t really see much difference in thoughts here, mostly semantics.  Just why different methods of communication end up with different features available.

Danny