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December 22, 2020
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  • December 22, 2020
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When will the Sonos controller for MacOS be updated to run natively on Apple Silicon?

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Best answer by Airgetlam

As I indicated, Sonos doesn’t release that type of information in advance. You’ll know probably if you’re in their beta group, or find out like the rest of us when they release it publicly.

I wouldn’t expect it anytime soon, though, there wouldn’t be a significant benefit involved, since the controller is essentially only a display layer to the actual process running on the speakers. There is no significant computational effort being expended by the controller.

And, for that matter, Sonos isn’t expending much energy on desktop controllers at this point, having stripped most of the set up functionality out in favor of mobile controllers. 

I’m  sure your request will be added to a backlog list somewhere, but I suspect it won’t rise to the top anytime soon. 

42 replies

Airgetlam
December 23, 2020

You’d know more about it than I, for sure. I’d be suspect about running any network reliant iOS app in a Mac environment. Just too much potential for network communication issues in a ‘compat’ mode. 

I’ve seen similar networking issues in game development when running mobile ‘compat’ applications on desktops.

Bruce
DaveFlash
Trending Lyricist I
April 14, 2021

Unfortunately the iPad app is not available on M1 Macs. I will be emailing Sonos urging them to support M1 Macs sooner rather than later. 

I highly recommend the new M1 Macs, I’ve had an M1 MacBook Air for a few days now and it runs miles around my 2019 Intel MacBook Pro.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

 

-Brandon

you can use iMazing to download, then export and side load the iOS app, it works flawlessly

Lyricist I
June 15, 2021

I’m merely looking for confirmation that it’s in the works. The controller is definitely slower than usual under Rosetta and can be unstable at times.

Experiencing the same issue. The app on M1 is less stable than a USB cam under windows 95 on a packard bell

 

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bdeboardAuthor
Contributor I
June 26, 2021

Unfortunately the iPad app is not available on M1 Macs. I will be emailing Sonos urging them to support M1 Macs sooner rather than later. 

I highly recommend the new M1 Macs, I’ve had an M1 MacBook Air for a few days now and it runs miles around my 2019 Intel MacBook Pro.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

 

-Brandon

you can use iMazing to download, then export and side load the iOS app, it works flawlessly

Great idea! I have iMazing so I’m going to try it. Thank you!!

Brandon
Lyricist I
September 24, 2021

Sonos on my M1 MacMini with BigSur refuses to index my library on an external USB-C SSD. It says it does it, but when I click on library, there aren’t any entries. This behavior started after the setup was moved to the M1 MacMini. Puzzling. 

 

I have this exact same problem. Were you able to solve it? 

Lyricist I
November 20, 2021

“Sonos isn’t expending much energy on desktop controllers”… They don’t need to put much energy into it, they just need to recompile with the latest XCode version (13), that’s it.

Do they really want us to hack the iPad app and use that one??!!

I know, the old app runs with Rosetta2, but you don’t want that. It’s not like some wrote here, Intel/AMD chips… they have compatible instruction sets, Rosetta2 is an Intel emulator written in ARM.

So yes Sonos, please release an update.

Lyricist I
November 23, 2021

Sonos doesn’t really care about (a) Mac users or (b) people who see no gain in the whole S2 shift, so I wouldn’t expect movement here.

I think my path forward now is probably to just try to cut my losses and sell my S1 gear on /r/sonos or something, because honestly the pure-play Apple approach is easier, cheaper, and sounds just as good. I’ve gone from being a big Sonos booster to actively discouraging my friends from wading in; Sonos no longer offers anything resembling a best-of-breed or even particularly high-end approach.

Airgetlam
November 23, 2021

Put that way, Sonos doesn’t really care about Windows users, either, since pretty much all development has been taken away from all desktop clients, not just Mac users. You can no longer use a desktop client to do most of the “setup” features, either, although they still work fine for playing music. In fact, as I sit here, the Mac client is telling me I’m listening to music right now. 

The removal of features from the desktop clients preceded the split between S1 and S2, so you’d see similar issues on either side. I happen to be running S2. 

Bruce
Contributor I
December 29, 2021

I don’t know if posting will up vote this, but I refuse to install Rosetta on my M1 Macs as the thing is a beauty without it and battery life of a titan.   But now I can’t control my sonos which is a bummer. 

Airgetlam
December 29, 2021

I can run the current software on my M1 MacBook Air without any issue. Not sure why you’d need Rosetta. 

Bruce