Allow more than one speaker per room group

I highly doubt this will ever happen. For bonding (what you call permanent grouping), Sonos prefers standard, acoustically optimum setups: Single speaker, 2.0, 2.1, and the various surround setups, all with like models for pairs. A mishmash of different models arranged in non-standard configurations is probably always going to be via grouping only.

jgatie - You are really over-thinking this. A "mishmash of different models in non-standard configurations" can already be grouped. This request is easily solved with a UI feature to "lock" a group and give it a single name.

jgatie - You are really over-thinking this. A "mishmash of different models in non-standard configurations" can already be grouped. This request is easily solved with a UI feature to "lock" a group and give it a single name.

As I explained, Sonos only allows you to do that with certain standard configurations. Not sure why you think I'm over thinking, but that is as simple as it gets.

Just group them all. You can use program like sonosequencr to one touch organize your groups.

Just group them all. You can use program like sonosequencr to one touch organize your groups.

It's sad that a third party had to make software to give the features that a system at this price-point should have by default 😕

Stereo pairing unmatched speakers shouldn’t be seen as standard feature. How many people buy two different wired speakers and stereo pair them. They don’t.

If I took two different B&W speakers and wired them as a pair B&W would say I was crazy. Sonos no different.

I find it refreshing that Sonos cares so much about sound quality that it only allows setups that are acoustically optimum. If someone wants sub-optimal pairings or groupings, let them buy an app that hacks them in.

Ability to store groups and recall favourite ‘scenes’ would be good though. Even if the older soeakers don’t have the space for this in memory, then sureky the controller app or cloud could be used to store them with the recall being automated. Would be a step forward from having to manually re-group and retune for those with larger houses and or lots of ‘rooms’. Yes it can be done manually, but it is cumbersome and could be addressed in a future update. Not aure how many people work at sonos, but I expect it is not a one man band and they don’t exactly have a huge and complex product range to look after!

I find it refreshing that Sonos cares so much about sound quality that it only allows setups that are acoustically optimum. If someone wants sub-optimal pairings or groupings, let them buy an app that hacks them in.

I don't think anyone is really saying that they want to be able to pair a play:3 with a play:1 as a stereo pair. What they're saying that if that if have a room in which they placed a play:1 in each corner of the room, why can they set it up as two stereo pairs, then permanently group them? Yes you can set it repeatedly, and maybe not have to reset all that often, but it would still be a nice feature.

Personally, I just want named groups, so that my commonly used groupings are more easily set, and can be done by voice.

Sonosequencer will do that in its app