Airplay 2 - Only for the new Sonos One

Airplay has to play everything via the controlling device. It also re-encodes everything sent through it degrading quality.

Due to airplay having to download everything to phone/controller then compressing and sending back over wifi .... it is very prone to dropouts.

Compared to Sonos (or Chromecast when actually casting) which tells the speaker where to locate the stream and the speaker pulls directly from source.

I believe Airplay2 will still have the downloading to device etc. of airplay ... however apple has said it will buffer so as to not drop out like old airplay would do as you walked around house. Hopefully the codec is better as well so it doesn't degrade the audio quality like old airplay.

and I'm don't even know why I even debating this after your calling me an Ass.

I didn't call you an Ass. I simply called your attention to being careful with making ass-umptions about people. So, should I ass-ume your last response meant you can't explain these so-called horrible issues with AP1? Nope, I'm not going to do that. Instead, I'd like to hear your opinion with what's wrong with Airplay 1.

Or you can’t read my post above that

I did a/b comparisons in my neighbors creation with airplay input and Sonos input. Same songs Sonos casting was 100% better quality.

what a joke searched "cannot access speaker since last update" and THIS is the ONLY result; wtf has this to do with failed updates?????????????Hi Andy24, we haven't shared all the details on this one and will be keeping it pretty quiet for a bit as development is early on and things tend to change. For now, it'll be on a selection of Sonos players, the latest ones to have come out. We'll share more in the future as this all develops. Glad you're excited and stay tuned for more.

Wow that's a helpful reply - typical Sonos.... treat the users like crap and then release software that annoys most of their loyal customers.

Thank you for that onepissedcustomer. The forum search is not the best of tools :(

Can i make a suggestion. Start a new thread in troubleshooting section and give us some more detail information about your problem, we are all here willing to help.

As an aside most issues like the one you describe can be resolved with structured re-start of your router and connected devices. Turn of all wi fi connected devices. reboot your router and wait for it to come fully back onlin. Then start your Sonos devices followed by the rest of your equipment. Then report progress, which hopefully will be good news and allow you to calm down a bit.

So ... Airplay2... will you provide support for Play:1 ?

Airplay has to play everything via the controlling device. It also re-encodes everything sent through it degrading quality.

Due to airplay having to download everything to phone/controller then compressing and sending back over wifi .... it is very prone to dropouts.

Compared to Sonos (or Chromecast when actually casting) which tells the speaker where to locate the stream and the speaker pulls directly from source.

I believe Airplay2 will still have the downloading to device etc. of airplay ... however apple has said it will buffer so as to not drop out like old airplay would do as you walked around house. Hopefully the codec is better as well so it doesn't degrade the audio quality like old airplay.

The compression used by airplay 1 is lossless as long as the source stream is less than or equal to cd quality. Only pro audio formats would see any degradation.

My direct experience comparing output of airport express vs output of SONOS Connect found a lot of issues with the airport express sound quality via airplay. Not to mention a lot of dropouts with airplay and none with Sonos. But that was just my limited experience.

I’m quite disappointed wth the SONOS policy of the last few months. Firstly I discovered that the new interaction with Audible, long awaited, is not working in my country (and yet my country has both SONOS and Audible services), now I understand AirPlay 2 will only be available for new spekers. I wonder why! AirPlay 2 is only a matter of software updates; no hardware, no chips, no other stuff. Is this the way SONOS treat “old” customers (assuming that someone who bought a new speaker only two years ago may be considered an “old customer”)? Why didn’t SONOS make AirPlay 2 available for everyone? I bought SONOS, paying more than 100 euros more than any competitor, because they promised always updated devices. What has become of that promise? Will SONOS give any reason to their “old” customers?