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May 29, 2018

Airplay 2 - iOS 11.4

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I am led to believe iOS 11.4 will be released later today allowing Airplay 2 support; assuming Sonos will also release an update to allow this function soon?
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    jgatie
    May 29, 2018
    You can assume if you like, but Sonos never gives out firm release dates. In this case, I imagine the delays from Apple getting Airplay 2 working right has put a crimp in Sonos' schedule, and they would be even more wary of giving a date than normal.
    Avid Contributor I
    May 29, 2018
    Hard to believe Sonos don't have this working in house and are just final tweaking as required for public release?
    melvimbe
    May 29, 2018
    Looking at the article below, it may be that integration with Sonos may not be as simple as it appears.

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/29/17403684/airplay-2-ios-114-stereo-homepod-available-now

    It looks like Airplay 2 is pretty similar to the original Airplay in that you aren't sending commands to Sonos to play a particular song (as you do with Alexa). Instead, you're streaming audio through your phone to speakers. Homepod is the exception to that in that it just takes the commands from your phone and streams it on it's own. It may be that a Sonos integration will not stream through the phone, but will work like the Homepod does, receive commands from the phone only and not a stream. If that's the case, then perhaps the integration will come at a later date. I don't know.

    Then again maybe Apple+Sonos users couldn't care less about that, and the integration is no different than any other airplay integration.

    Aside, is it just me or is it a little weird that the Homepod is using Airplay2 to do Stereo pairing? From the description in the article, I'm not even convinced that it's a true stereo pairing, but more like a pairing so that 2 homepods in the same rooms balance each other out better or something. I can somewhat see that as intentional as perhaps Apple wants you to put the speakers anywhere in the room without being concerned about proper placement.
    Danny
    Ken_Griffiths
    May 30, 2018
    Apple tvOS (4th gen) gets AirPlay-2 aswell, it seems.

    I’m wondering if that means I will eventually be able to stream Netflix (audio) from my ATV across to my New Sonos One Speakers... I think it does !
    Lyricist II
    May 30, 2018
    I'm certainly hoping that Sonos adding AirPlay 2 support means that my Sonos One will appear to my iPhone to be just another wireless speaker, and so any app that allows you to output to AirPlay 2 will let you send its audio to the Sonos One. For example, the BBC iPlayer Radio app, or the Audible app.
    Ken_Griffiths
    May 30, 2018
    I'm certainly hoping that Sonos adding AirPlay 2 support means that my Sonos One will appear to my iPhone to be just another wireless speaker, and so any app that allows you to output to AirPlay 2 will let you send its audio to the Sonos One. For example, the BBC iPlayer Radio app, or the Audible app.
    Paul1999,

    From things I have read so far... it appears that your new Sonos One Speaker will become an AirPlay compatible device and from the Airplay icon in the iOS compatible apps, you will be able to send the audio to the speaker... so that’s BBC IPlayer, YouTube, Netflix, Amazon Video, Podcasts etc. etc. to name but a few of the hundreds of apps available in the Apple Store and elsewhere.

    The Sonos blog also talks about being able to group either your “Sonos One/Playbase/Play-5 (gen2)” Speakers ...with your other Sonos Rooms.

    I think it will be a huge step forward for the Sonos customer as it presents access to a great deal of audio and video sources ...and there is a claim that the audio and video will sync perfectly with the iDevices like iPad/iPhone and hopefully Apple TV too.

    I’m looking forward to seeing if this really does turn out to be the case... it certainly sounds good, if it is !

    I guess the next question is how long will it be before Sonos can develop and release this? Airplay-2 and iOS11.4 has only just been released by Apple, so I suspect it maybe a while.
    Contributor I
    May 30, 2018
    I am led to believe iOS 11.4 will be released later today allowing Airplay 2 support; assuming Sonos will also release an update to allow this function soon?

    The situation is simple really: I use apple products and airplay2 is something I have been waiting for YEARS for (long before they announced it). It is way overdue IMO. I bought a set of Sonos Connect and Sonos Connect Amps knowing that they have airplay 1 but gambled on the proposition that they would be able to do airplay2. If they cannot, I would much rather get rid of these in favor of something is compatible. I am still looking for the a multi room CENTRALIZED option as well where all of it is in one box with a bunch of wires coming out.

    I would also like to see hear my doorbells cause music to fade a bit and doorbell chime to come through my distributed system. Once I have that, there is literally no need for me to own a centralized home automation system for that application.

    I do like that multiple streaming services can be combined in sonos and that is really its ONE killer app at this point.

    I am NOT buying tabletop speakers for airplay2 from sonos or anyone else. I want my connect amp and connect units to have airplay2 or they are essentially going to be obsolete.
    Stuart_W
    World-Class Superstar
    May 30, 2018
    I am led to believe iOS 11.4 will be released later today allowing Airplay 2 support; assuming Sonos will also release an update to allow this function soon?
    I bought a set of Sonos Connect and Sonos Connect Amps knowing that they have airplay 1 but gambled on the proposition that they would be able to do .


    What made you think Connect and Connect:Amp are Airplay 1 compatible?
    They aren't and I have no reason to believe they are or even will be Airplay 2 compatible.
    Arc + Sub (Gen 1) + 2 x Play 1/ Stereo Play 3s/ Era 100 Stereo in Kitchen, One Stereo in Bedroom, Play 1 stereo pair in Study, Play 1in Bathroom, Sonos Move 2
    Ken_Griffiths
    May 30, 2018
    I have only seen the announcement that Sonos One/PlayBase/Play-5(gen2) are compatible AirPlay-2 controlling Sonos devices... I guess we could probably add to that list any new Sonos devices that they care to release in the future.. (a new PlayBar perhaps?), that’s if the rumours are true?

    Having said that though, the Sonos announcement seems to say we will be able to group these AirPlay-2 controlling devices and play the audio to any rooms that they are grouped with... and the audio will all be in sync.

    So presumably if Kishore Y, has a Sonos One, for example, he could group it with his Connect/Connect:Amp Rooms and play Airplay sourced audio until his heart's content.

    That’s how I read the Sonos announcements shown here ...

    https://www.sonos.com/en-gb/airplay

    https://blog.sonos.com/en-gb/airplay2-coming/
    Contributor I
    May 30, 2018
    I am led to believe iOS 11.4 will be released later today allowing Airplay 2 support; assuming Sonos will also release an update to allow this function soon?
    I bought a set of Sonos Connect and Sonos Connect Amps knowing that they have airplay 1 but gambled on the proposition that they would be able to do .


    What made you think Connect and Connect:Amp are Airplay 1 compatible?
    They aren't and I have no reason to believe they are or even will be Airplay 2 compatible.


    Yep i stand corrected, i am using my control4 airplay service and it is over-riding my sonos and auto switching.

    Before that i used airplay via airport express through the inputs on sonos.

    I guess my wish still stands. Airplay on everything is what i want and was hoping for with sonos announcements. I want to trim down this mix of gadgets and as primarily a apple music user, it does not make sense to jump around apps and gadgets.

    In reality what i “want” is an 8 room central airplay 2 server all-in-one box with a peq. The closest thing is a russound device which hopefully will get airplay2. Getting my doorbell to come through the same speakers without any more devices would be icing on that cake.