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Enthusiast II
August 9, 2026

ZP80 ground loop issue and solutions

  • August 9, 2026
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I’m well aware the issues of the floating ground in the ZP80 and my setup has been a little fragile  but good enough in that regard. However, For my ZP80 zones I had to get new power amps (long story) and they are unusable. Cyrus Stereo 200s so very decent kit, replacing a variety of Tag, XTZ & audiolab.

Using ZP100 as a pre-amp only they work fine. I know it’s ground loops. I’ve tried connecting mains ground to RCA outer on the ZP80, no effect. I tried same to chassis plate under the ZP80, no effect. I tried ZP80 RCA outer to Cyrus chassis, no effect.

I’m reluctant to try RCA ground loop isolators - cheap, yes, but theory says they will degrade the sound making a monkey of my expensive amps! However, has anyone any experience can feedback?

Aside from that my solutions seem to be to use an external DAC with optical input or buy a couple of used ZP100s in pre-amp mode that I know will work. No point switching to WiiM because they will have similar issues.

Any thoughts?

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buzz
August 10, 2026

The industry is very sloppy with its use of terms. A “preamp” could be a full function device with a full complement of controls (input selection, Volume, Tone, etc.) without a built-in power amplifier. A “preamp” could be a low level input device (no controls) for use with certain microphones (flat frequency response) or turntables (RIAA equalization). There are two variations of phono preamps, depending on type of phono cartridge. Microphone “preamps” may have RCA connectors or XLR connectors. The full function “preamp” first described above does not typically include capability for low level microphones, Therefore you’ll need a “preamp” for the microphone. An “amp” (“amplifier”) (“integrated amplifier”) (“power amplifier”) connecting to speakers may have no controls, basic controls, or full controls and inputs.

Here, each new poster lives in a particular context and a “preamplifier” or “amplifier” is a specific device in that context. Our job as general purpose commentators is to figure out which context the poster is referring to. Some posters become testy as we attempt to nail down the context that seems very obvious to the poster. 

133133Author
Enthusiast II
August 14, 2026

Quick update. I bought two used ZP100s off ebay, reset them, tested them including the amp section and they are just fine. £50 each. I realise longevity is not guaranteed but an inexpensive, simple though imperfect solution for now. Appreciate all the feedback. My career was around testing ADCs integrated on complex microcontrollers and grounding was always a major consideration in design, integration & test. It reminded me!

buzz
August 15, 2026

You should have been on the ZP80 test team.

133133Author
Enthusiast II
August 15, 2026

You should have been on the ZP80 test team.

Marketers won’t want to hear it because their purpose is to force users up their own value chain of products and they don’t really want users to buy their cheapest ‘digital delivery’ units to integrate in their already high end DACs and amplification. However, designers could easily allow a grounding point just as has been catered for turntable users since time began.