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Contributor I
August 14, 2020
Question

Sonos Move Not Showing in App.

  • August 14, 2020
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Hi

My Sonos Move is regularly not visible on my System i.e. it’s not an option on the S2 App. I also have a Sonos Boost installed.

The move is an expensive piece of kit and this should not be happening. Please advise, diagnostic number 1564751572 has been submitted.

Regards

Matt

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Paul A
Retired Sonos Staff
August 14, 2020

Hi @MLArnall.

Welcome to the Sonos community and thanks for bringing this situation to our attention.

I would like to share with you according to the submitted diagnostic, the Sonos Move is online and still currently online connected to the Sonos servers.

I would highly recommend trying these basic troubleshooting steps:

  1. Reboot router: Unplug from power and plug it back after 10-15 secs.
  2. Reboot Sonos device: starting with the speaker connected to the router via Ethernet cable. Unplug from power and plug it back after 10-15 secs.
  3. Force close and relaunch Sonos app: close the app from running background application and re-open Sonos App.
  4. Check light status make sure everything is on solid white light.
  5. Submit diagnostics: To further check what is going on and what could possibly be other tips we could consider.

Please let me know the results. We will always be happy to help.

Thanks,

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Contributor I
August 16, 2020

I tried this and it did not work. I don’t have the boost though. I can’t connect and it won’t find my product to connect either 

Airgetlam
August 16, 2020

If you don’t have the BOOST, what Sonos devices do you have? How were they connected originally? Have you tried plugging an Ethernet cable between your router and one of the Sonos devices? Have you tried a network refresh by unplugging all Sonos devices you have, then rebooting the router, and plugging back in the Sonos devices once the router comes back up?

Bruce
MLArnallAuthor
Contributor I
August 23, 2020

Hi @Paul A 

Thank you for your reply.

Your suggestions don’t work sorry. Even if they did, it’s not practical to repeat those steps every time the app does not display the Move.

For info, my router runs various other devices without issue.

In short, the Move is still on frequent occasions not showing on the app. Any further suggestions please? A new diagnostic code for you - 1542670537.

Kind regards

Matt

 

 

Paul A
Retired Sonos Staff
August 25, 2020

Hi @MLArnall.

Thanks for the immediate and detailed response and for submitting a diagnostic.

Based on the submitted diagnostic, Sonos detected another hardware that provides the same Wifi name as the main router which indicates a Wifi Extender/Booster.repeater, or another router or an access point. If this is the case, I would suggest reaching out to the manufacturer of that secondary router to be configured in bridge mode or access point mode or which option best fits your preference.

  • Have each access point have their own unique Wifi name as so you and your mobile controller do not get confused about what and where to connect to access your Sonos system.
  • Disable Wifi Capabilities of the Main router that provides connection directly to your ISP or internet provider.
  • Disable the DHCP or IP-address generation of the Access point and only allow the main router to generate the IP-addresses to avoid IP-address mismatch or IP-address duplicates.
  • Wire a Sonos device to one of the routers/access points to get them to stay on a single network (having each access point have their own unique WiFi names).

I hope this helps.

Please let me know if you have further questions or concerns. We are always here to help.

Thanks,

 

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MLArnallAuthor
Contributor I
August 25, 2020

Hi @Paul A 

I am not going to do that.

1. The Wi-fi set up is absolutely fine and successfully runs multiple devices including other Sonos products. What is different about the Move?

2. The secondary hardware you refer to is a BT extender disc. As mentioned, it works fine with everything bar the Move.

3. Regarding your last point. I already have a Sonos Boost connected which is supposed to create a dedicated network for Sonos. Why is this not resolving the issue?

In short, I am not going to dance around the Move, it should work as advertised in line with other Sonos products. It cost £399 and should not have these issues. The suggestions you are making seem generic and do not acknowledge the product flaw.

Thank you for your ongoing assistance.

​​​​​​​Regards

Matt

Paul A
Retired Sonos Staff
August 25, 2020

Hi @MLArnall.

Thanks for the update and feedback.

The Sonos Move does not connect to the Sonos network, it connects to the internet via 5G which is not supported by the Sonos Net network. I understand your frustration of getting the Access point on bridge mode or access point mode. If they are not configured as recommended We have issues for local communication as the current set up does not allow to do so. I  would also like to suggest either we reach out to other members of the community for a second opinion or you may contact our technical support team for more in-depth troubleshooting steps. However, They may have the same recommendation as provided. The rest of the Sonos devices work as they are connected tot he Sonos Boost via the Sonos Net channel network, however, as mentioned the Sonos Move does not connect this way that is why the Sonos Move is not showing on the Sonos App because it is connected to the other network. You may also try these recommendations to test on what is stated might be the issue.

  • Turn off Wifi on your mobile phone’s settings.
  • Turn off and turn on your mobile phone or mobile controller.
  • Move closer towards the Sonos Move or to the other access point (BT extender disc).
  • Turn on Wifi and reconnect the Wifi network.
  • Force close and re-open the Sonos App.
  • If the Sonos Move shows on the Sonos app, the rest of the Sonos devices would not.

Or my other recommendation, so they might be on the same network, is to move the Sonos Move closer to the other router where the Sonos Boost is connected.

I hope this helps.

Please let me know if you have further questions or concerns. We are always here to help.

Thanks,

 

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MLArnallAuthor
Contributor I
August 25, 2020

Hi @Paul A 

Thank you for the reply.

Can you clarify what you mean by connects via 5G please?

Secondly, reply from BT as follows “Whole Home Wi-Fi works in bridge mode which means it does not change the network and works as a set of access points so all traffic can go straight to the router.” Presume this negates the need to configure in bridge/access point mode?

Kind regards

Matt

MLArnallAuthor
Contributor I
August 25, 2020

@Paul A 

PS: at what point pre purchase do Sonos inform customers that the Move will have connection issues unless there is a single access point and that it doesn’t work with Sonos Net?

How would hard wiring a Sonos device help if the Move does not work with Sonos Net?

Thanks

Paul A
Retired Sonos Staff
August 25, 2020

Hi @MLArnall.

Thanks for your immediate response.

“Secondly, reply from BT as follows “Whole Home Wi-Fi works in bridge mode which means it does not change the network and works as a set of access points so all traffic can go straight to the router.” Presume this negates the need to configure in bridge/access point mode?” Yes this negates the requirement to set the Access point on bridge mode. 

“Can you clarify what you mean by connects via 5G please?” usually almost but not all routers come and is capable of dual bandwidth. This means they are capable of generating 2.4G Wifi and 5G WiFi. 2.4G Wifi bandwidth means longer-range but slower bandwidth (capacity to transport data from router to user’s device) 5G means shorter range but larger bandwidth.

If the Manufacturer already indicated they are on bridge mode, We by removing the Sonos Move from the charging bay, press and hold the power button for 10-15 seconds, and placing it back on it’s charging bay without pressing any buttons would allow the Sonos Move to power cycle, refresh its current IP-address and reconnect to the same Wifi network. If based on the manufacturer they are already in bridge mode, The Sonos Move should appear on the Sonos App once the Sonos app has been relaunched.

I hope this helps.

Please let me know if you have further questions or concerns. We are always here to help.

Thanks,

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