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Enthusiast II
December 31, 2023

Sonos is forcing people to buy new hardware as they've broken the Connect:Amp and they refuse to fix it

  • December 31, 2023
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Hi,

 

I'm recreating this thread, as the discussion wasn't finished, but it was locked. I also wanted to make it obvious this is a Sonos issue, not a client environment issue.

 

https://en.community.sonos.com/components-and-architectural-228999/connect-amp-keeps-dropping-out-audio-6885634/index2.html

 

I've been following this for a while because I've been having the same issues, and when I spoke to support they said the connect amp can't cope with modern software and that I should upgrade to the amp, which is clearly unacceptable.

 

This has been confirmed by people in that original thread who have been told the same thing.

 

BillJanzen

“FWIW, these issues seem to have occured after the June 2023 software update to S2 version 15.5. Interestingly, there is an alert posted in the release notes of the 15.6 update released July 25, 2023 about adjusting how older Sonos products use their internal memory. See below (copied from https://support.sonos.com/en-ca/article/release-notes-for-sonos-s2):  Alerts:      With this update, we’ve adjusted how some of our older Sonos products are using their internal memory. Because of this change, updates for Play:1, Play:3, Boost, Connect, Connect:Amp, and Sub (Gen 1 and 2) will take longer to complete than before. The reset process for these products will also take more time to complete after this update.”

 

BillJanzen

“We continue to have intermittent drop-outs on all 4 of our Connect:Amp devices, so here’s my update after 1.5 hours on the phone with Sonos today. They said the diagnostics for one of the Connect:Amp devices the chose to investigate showed multiple major alerts, including:      Cannot allocate memory to full status     Write failed     Player crashed: out of memory     OOM Killer  These items all sound like they are related to memory issues with the older Connect:Amp product, as Big Bull mentioned in his previous post.”

 

Big Bull:

“Ok latest is I powered down 3 of my 4 units and just had the one I use most running hard wired to the router through my switch and it still gave dropouts so I sent 2 diagnostics to Sonos and they said : 

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Thanks, so on this one in specific I can see the audio interruptions are caused because the product basically is old, and it is reaching its capabilities, there are some things that can be done to try to reduce the impact of this, but if it continues this product will need to be replaced with the upgrade program. 

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I am being advised to replace any affected units with the Sonos Amp which can be costly.”

 

Birchan

“  Same problem, 4 AMP of which two lose sound...  SONOS did a wrong analysis and accidentally said that there were memory failures in some of the units. But since they only give a 2-year warranty, mine was 2.5 years too old. How can SONOS sell products that obviously have manufacturing problems and then say that they can replace them with a 30% discount on new ones? Wonder if Tesla would sell cars that stop working after 2 years and say, sorry you have to buy a new car every two years because the warranty has expired. So bad from SONOS so I will be discontinuing my SONOS system and switching to BOSE...  “

 

For context, in my situation I have a connect amp, connected via ethernet with WiFi off, and I started to get regular drop outs around June. It's incredibly annoying, the audio will drop out for a few seconds before continuing, if other speakers are grouped they will carry on fine.

 

It's absolutely 100% not a network issue. When I was debugging it, I briefly made the connect amp the only wired device and turned on WiFi, and other speakers in my house worked perfectly at all times. I've also reserved IP addresses, and I ran a ping monitor on it to check for any network dropouts. There were none. I've put the system back now, so the connect amp has its WiFi off.

 

So it seems to me that Sonos have released a firmware update that the connect amp cannot handle, and rather than take responsibility for it, they're just fobbing people off telling them to buy expensive new hardware to solve the problem, not even with any substantial discount. It's unacceptable. This connect amp worked perfectly before June.

 

Sonos needs to release a new update that solves the issue, or give people affected substantial discounts on replacement amps, and formally announce that the connect amp is end of life. Currently people with issues on this forum are being unintentionally gaslighted by well meaning people who don't know that this issue exists. Sonos cannot say the connect amp is supported when they've released a broken update.

 

People need to know about this issue, I've seen loads of topics about this issue and people get fobbed off with network issues, which is absolutely not the case, at all. Big Bull proved this by doing a replacement to amps which solved his issue.

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Pinned Reply By Corry P

Hi @britcowboy 

Thanks for bringing this back to my attention.

We now consider this issue to be largely resolved, and any remaining cases are being dealt with on an individual basis. If you still encounter the issue described here, I recommend you get in touch with our technical support team who have tools at their disposal that will allow them to give you advice specific to your Sonos system and what it reports.

I hope this helps.

294 replies

January 4, 2024

my rollback to S1 doesn’t stay the course then a pair of WiiM Amps at $750 looks like a very attractive alternative to the pair of Sonos Amps. 

In that case, why don’t as many Echo Dots as there are Connect Amps not look even more attractive, at about USD 40 a piece? Why throw away perfectly good amplification electronics that is in the Connect Amps? I have never understood the sense in spending money on streamers when the Echo Dot does the job as well as is needed in most cases.

Enthusiast II
January 4, 2024

my rollback to S1 doesn’t stay the course then a pair of WiiM Amps at $750 looks like a very attractive alternative to the pair of Sonos Amps. 

In that case, why don’t as many Echo Dots as there are Connect Amps not look even more attractive, at about USD 40 a piece? Why throw away perfectly good amplification electronics that is in the Connect Amps? I have never understood the sense in spending money on streamers when the Echo Dot does the job as well as is needed in most cases.

Good idea. I’ll investigate this too.

Enthusiast II
January 4, 2024

60 hours in and still rocking the S1 rollback. Utterly stable and responsive. No dropouts and no software or hardware glitches. It’s how Sonos used to be and should still be.

Enthusiast II
January 4, 2024

It’s notable how no-one from Sonos themselves have deemed this thread worthy of any kind of response, pretty disappointing customer service from Sonos, just hoping we go away...

Enthusiast II
January 4, 2024

Seen people are reporting this issue on twitter too…

 

 

Corry P
Sonos Staff
January 5, 2024

Hi @britcowboy et al,

Thank you all for your information both in this topic and the other one mentioned (which we have reopened as it was automatically closed by mistake).

Our engineers are currently investigating this with the highest priority.

We thank you for your patience while we work through this, we'll keep you updated with any news that we can share.

Thank you.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen." - Albert Einstein
Lyricist I
January 7, 2024

very glad i found this thread.  

Symptoms started summer of 23.  I have one simple Connect : Amp streaming to four zones of speakers.  Main zone has stopped being ‘detectable’ and all other zones have audio drop out.  Have been pulling my hair out all week trying to get this fixed. 

For those that don’t think this is a widespread issue just because there aren’t thousands of post….the silent majority of users of this product are either 1) not noticing the issue 2) living with it 3) too busy to deal with it 4) calling the expensive AV vendor out to fix it or 5) just buying the newest product.

I prefer not to light money on fire and will await the Sonos fix since they are apparently now working on it with high priority.

Big thanks to the relentless efforts of OP.

Enthusiast II
January 8, 2024

Quick update on the S1 rollback after a week of running it. 
 

The system has been run from four different devices. Controlling the amps has been quick and easy from each device and completely glitch free. It’s been possible to control the CAs from pretty much at least three devices simultaneously (laptop and two iPhones). There hasn’t been a single occurrence of the dreaded ‘can’t find your device’ messages which previously necessitating rebooting the CAs.

Each of the amps has been run independently (one or other or both playing different music streams) as well as party mode. Music services used have been my personal library, Qobuz and Spotify. There have been no streaming hangs, gaps or jumps to the next track - all of which were depressingly common under S2. 

There has been only one system hesitation/pause on trying to go from two independent music streams to party mode where the system appeared to be confused for a moment but then sorted itself out. That’s about the only mis-step I have noticed and it falls into the category of ‘blink and you’ll miss it’. 
So for those of you who can revert to S1, I highly recommend it while Sonos tries to fix S2.

For those of you stuck with S2, I have my fingers crossed for a speedy fix as I had forgotten how much I enjoy using Sonos.

For the Establishment, please try to exercise a little more humility, compassion and patience next time. Your aggressive behaviour reduces the utility of what should be a community help resource. Sonos hosts it for everyone’s benefit, not solely for you to enjoy the sport of shooting messengers. 😉

January 8, 2024

 

For the Establishment, please try to exercise a little more humility, compassion and patience next time. 

Don’t call a few the Establishment!

Trending Lyricist I
January 8, 2024

Same issue for me with Connect:Amp Gen2. Worked flawlessly for a number of years then last year started intermittent 5-10 second audio dropouts across any service (radio, Amazon Music, NAS library etc).

Audio continues without interruption in other grouped speakers and linked Sonos subwoofer.

Same dropout problem whether Connect:Amp is hard-wired ethernet to router or wireless via Boost.

Running S2 with some S2 only speakers.