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Enthusiast II
December 31, 2023

Sonos is forcing people to buy new hardware as they've broken the Connect:Amp and they refuse to fix it

  • December 31, 2023
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Hi,

 

I'm recreating this thread, as the discussion wasn't finished, but it was locked. I also wanted to make it obvious this is a Sonos issue, not a client environment issue.

 

https://en.community.sonos.com/components-and-architectural-228999/connect-amp-keeps-dropping-out-audio-6885634/index2.html

 

I've been following this for a while because I've been having the same issues, and when I spoke to support they said the connect amp can't cope with modern software and that I should upgrade to the amp, which is clearly unacceptable.

 

This has been confirmed by people in that original thread who have been told the same thing.

 

BillJanzen

“FWIW, these issues seem to have occured after the June 2023 software update to S2 version 15.5. Interestingly, there is an alert posted in the release notes of the 15.6 update released July 25, 2023 about adjusting how older Sonos products use their internal memory. See below (copied from https://support.sonos.com/en-ca/article/release-notes-for-sonos-s2):  Alerts:      With this update, we’ve adjusted how some of our older Sonos products are using their internal memory. Because of this change, updates for Play:1, Play:3, Boost, Connect, Connect:Amp, and Sub (Gen 1 and 2) will take longer to complete than before. The reset process for these products will also take more time to complete after this update.”

 

BillJanzen

“We continue to have intermittent drop-outs on all 4 of our Connect:Amp devices, so here’s my update after 1.5 hours on the phone with Sonos today. They said the diagnostics for one of the Connect:Amp devices the chose to investigate showed multiple major alerts, including:      Cannot allocate memory to full status     Write failed     Player crashed: out of memory     OOM Killer  These items all sound like they are related to memory issues with the older Connect:Amp product, as Big Bull mentioned in his previous post.”

 

Big Bull:

“Ok latest is I powered down 3 of my 4 units and just had the one I use most running hard wired to the router through my switch and it still gave dropouts so I sent 2 diagnostics to Sonos and they said : 

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Thanks, so on this one in specific I can see the audio interruptions are caused because the product basically is old, and it is reaching its capabilities, there are some things that can be done to try to reduce the impact of this, but if it continues this product will need to be replaced with the upgrade program. 

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I am being advised to replace any affected units with the Sonos Amp which can be costly.”

 

Birchan

“  Same problem, 4 AMP of which two lose sound...  SONOS did a wrong analysis and accidentally said that there were memory failures in some of the units. But since they only give a 2-year warranty, mine was 2.5 years too old. How can SONOS sell products that obviously have manufacturing problems and then say that they can replace them with a 30% discount on new ones? Wonder if Tesla would sell cars that stop working after 2 years and say, sorry you have to buy a new car every two years because the warranty has expired. So bad from SONOS so I will be discontinuing my SONOS system and switching to BOSE...  “

 

For context, in my situation I have a connect amp, connected via ethernet with WiFi off, and I started to get regular drop outs around June. It's incredibly annoying, the audio will drop out for a few seconds before continuing, if other speakers are grouped they will carry on fine.

 

It's absolutely 100% not a network issue. When I was debugging it, I briefly made the connect amp the only wired device and turned on WiFi, and other speakers in my house worked perfectly at all times. I've also reserved IP addresses, and I ran a ping monitor on it to check for any network dropouts. There were none. I've put the system back now, so the connect amp has its WiFi off.

 

So it seems to me that Sonos have released a firmware update that the connect amp cannot handle, and rather than take responsibility for it, they're just fobbing people off telling them to buy expensive new hardware to solve the problem, not even with any substantial discount. It's unacceptable. This connect amp worked perfectly before June.

 

Sonos needs to release a new update that solves the issue, or give people affected substantial discounts on replacement amps, and formally announce that the connect amp is end of life. Currently people with issues on this forum are being unintentionally gaslighted by well meaning people who don't know that this issue exists. Sonos cannot say the connect amp is supported when they've released a broken update.

 

People need to know about this issue, I've seen loads of topics about this issue and people get fobbed off with network issues, which is absolutely not the case, at all. Big Bull proved this by doing a replacement to amps which solved his issue.

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Pinned Reply By Corry P

Hi @britcowboy 

Thanks for bringing this back to my attention.

We now consider this issue to be largely resolved, and any remaining cases are being dealt with on an individual basis. If you still encounter the issue described here, I recommend you get in touch with our technical support team who have tools at their disposal that will allow them to give you advice specific to your Sonos system and what it reports.

I hope this helps.

294 replies

Avid Contributor II
February 24, 2024

Well I spoke too soon (which is why I asked if any of my optimism was backed up by release notes).

My CA is as bad as ever. 

Ho hum. Whatever the solution is it won’t be a Sonos product. I will buy a cheap Bluetooth amp and simply connect to that from my phone when I need to. Not as seamless as the CA but, as my phone will be about 1 metre from the amp, I am fairly sure I won’t get drop outs. 

And had been tempted by Sonos’s double discount on their upgrade program but I simply refuse to spend any more with them whatever the deal ☹️

 


Same here.  Even with a nightly shut down my CAs start ok but break up & stop working later in the day.  Ready irritating.

 

 

 

Lyricist III
February 26, 2024

Some of my coworkers are reporting that SONOS is now advising people to adjust the channel that SONOS net operates on. They seemed to have shown success in the short term with the audio drop outs. Has anyone still had this issue after adjusting away from the default channel 6? Please if you have a system still experiencing this issue give this a shot and report back.

Thanks.

buzz
February 26, 2024

WiFi interference will be location dependent. Channel 6 might be the magic bullet in one location and not so good in another. And conditions can change. For example, a neighbor cold reconfigure their system and start interfering with your WiFi.

Start keeping a log. You may notice that certain times of day or week are better than others. This might allow you to start a discussion with a neighbor. 

Stanley_4
Grand Maestro
February 27, 2024

Also just because a channel is good today doesn’t mean it will be good tomorrow.

We have had issues with neighbor’s routers that auto select channels picking our Sonos channel. Right now we are seeing most neighbors dropping Cox Cable and their router for Quantum Fiber and their three pod mesh, so much fun for us trying to find the best channel.

Unless you have a channel monitor (not a simple WiFi scanner) you can’t get a great answer on which channel is best, still worth trying the scanner though as it points you correctly in most situations.

February 27, 2024

Is not this present issue with Connect Amp memory cards there even where the Connect Amps are hardwired back to the core network? Why are channels relevant if that is the case?

Enthusiast II
February 27, 2024

A quick update eight weeks into the S1 rollback. 
 

Everything remains tickety-boo. 
 

Has the last S2 update resolved the issue for those of you on S2? 

106rallye
March 2, 2024

Using my Connect (Gen 2) yesterday to play the new Walter Trout CD to my system I noticed too that the sound stops every few minutes. Since my other speakers are not affected I suspect my Connect also suffers from this. I hope that Sonos is able to restore the Connect to it’s former stable performance.

Enthusiast II
March 2, 2024

Using my Connect (Gen 2) yesterday to play the new Walter Trout CD to my system I noticed too that the sound stops every few minutes. Since my other speakers are not affected I suspect my Connect also suffers from this. I hope that Sonos is able to restore the Connect to it’s former stable performance.

Are you running the latest S2 update?

106rallye
March 2, 2024

I’m running 16.0.

Lyricist III
March 4, 2024

Is not this present issue with Connect Amp memory cards there even where the Connect Amps are hardwired back to the core network? Why are channels relevant if that is the case?

If I am not mistaken even while hardwired SONOS devices still broadcast the SONOSnet backbone Wi-Fi.