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Contributor I
October 18, 2019
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Sonos causing Mac crash

  • October 18, 2019
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I’m on the latest macOS Catalina 10.15, and my Sonos controller is up to date. On three occasions recently opening the controller on my Mac has caused the whole computer to instantly crash - I’m hoping someone might have an idea why? Thanks, Shane

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    Best answer by controlav

    If the entire machine is crashing then its an OS bug. Apps should never be capable of bringing down an operating system. Not since Windows 95 anyway.

    Bruce’s reference to a diagnostic number was assuming an app problem, but this is way beyond that. I have no idea how you would report an OS bug to Apple.

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    Airgetlam
    October 18, 2019

    That certainly seems unusual. Have you submitted the crash statistics to Apple for review? And then submitted a system diagnostic to Sonos, for similar review?

     

    Not that it helps you much, but I’m not having that issue on two different Catalina installed Macs. Any possibility that there’s a firewall or perhaps a virus protection application that is killing the app? It would seem odd to only occur occasionally. Which is why perhaps sending that diagnostic in to Sonos might help, since they would likely see an error in the log files that are part of that submission. 

     

    Edit: Not that you’ll get any feedback from Apple on it. However, if you post the diagnostic number here, or better yet contact Sonos Support with the diagnostic number, you’re much more likely to get feedback.

    Bruce
    Contributor I
    October 19, 2019

    Thanks Bruce. 
     

    I submitted reports to both Sonos and Apple. It’s not the app that crashes per se, it’s the whole Mac shuts down instantly and reboots. I did wonder if it was an issue with Norton, I checked the firewall permissions and Sonos had ‘Always’ checked for permission access.

    How do I find the diagnostic number?

    Thanks

    Shane

    controlav
    controlavAnswer
    Lead Maestro
    October 19, 2019

    If the entire machine is crashing then its an OS bug. Apps should never be capable of bringing down an operating system. Not since Windows 95 anyway.

    Bruce’s reference to a diagnostic number was assuming an app problem, but this is way beyond that. I have no idea how you would report an OS bug to Apple.

    Author of the leading independent Sonos apps for Android, MacOS, iOS, Windows and Xbox.
    Contributor I
    October 19, 2019

    Oh really? It only happens when I load the Sonos controller 🤔

    Airgetlam
    October 19, 2019

    Usually, when a Mac crashed completely (and it’s relatively rare, in my experience), when it comes back up, there’s a “submit crash statistics to Apple” that pops up, although this may not be as common as it used to be, since they now ask you when setting up a new version of the OS if you’re willing to submit crash statistics to Apple.

    The diagnostic from Sonos would be after running the process in the app itself. It gives a resulting number at the end of the process, once it’s saved the data off on Sonos’ servers, which you would make note of, and then contact Sonos about. Without a prompt, Sonos wouldn’t look at it, as noted in the [url=https://en.community.sonos.com/troubleshooting-228999/diagnostic-reports-how-do-they-work-6819123]Diagnostics - How do they work?[/url] thread.

    All of this being said, I do tend to agree with controlav, this does not seem to be a Sonos issue, in my mind at least, and there’s something else going on.

    I’d certainly delete the current copy, and download a fresh one from the Sonos website, on the offhand chance that the copy you currently have is oddly corrupted.

    Bruce
    Lyricist I
    November 10, 2019

    Hey @ shanebenton I am having the same problem where my whole MacBook Pro crashes and I am suspicious of Sonos as well.

    Here’s why (from “problem report for macOS”):

    panic(cpu 2 caller 0xffffff800cef715e): "soreceive: sb 0xffffff803e8bd4e0 so 0xffffff803e8bd478 cc 1448 mbcnt 2304 mb 0xffffff8122feeb00 mbtail 0xffffff8122feeb00 " "lastrecord 0xffffff8122feeb00\n"@/BuildRoot/Library/Caches/com.apple.xbs/Sources/xnu/xnu-6153.41.3/bsd/kern/uipc_socket2.c:1913
    Backtrace (CPU 2), Frame : Return Address
    0xffffff914122ba30 : 0xffffff800c939a3b 
    0xffffff914122ba80 : 0xffffff800ca70fe5 
    0xffffff914122bac0 : 0xffffff800ca62a5e 
    0xffffff914122bb10 : 0xffffff800c8e0a40 
    0xffffff914122bb30 : 0xffffff800c939127 
    0xffffff914122bc30 : 0xffffff800c93950b 
    0xffffff914122bc80 : 0xffffff800d0d17f9 
    0xffffff914122bcf0 : 0xffffff800cef715e 
    0xffffff914122bd20 : 0xffffff800cee9b7b 
    0xffffff914122be30 : 0xffffff800ceb6752 
    0xffffff914122bee0 : 0xffffff800ceb648a 
    0xffffff914122bf40 : 0xffffff800cf9a1aa 
    0xffffff914122bfa0 : 0xffffff800c8e1206 

    BSD process name corresponding to current thread: Sonos

    Mac OS version:
    19B88
    ---

    I’m working through it with Apple to see if they can figure it out, but very suspicious of Sonos controller app if you are having the same problem… and it seems to be getting called out in the problem report for macOS.

    Trending Lyricist I
    December 21, 2019

    I’m having the SAME EXACT issue.  Started when I switched to Catalina.  Kernel panic and system crash fairly consistent when I try to open the controller.  

     

    It’s to the point that I don’t even want to open the macOS controller, and run Sonos from my phone instead.  I have to make a deliberate risk decision on whether I’m willing to restart and open all my apps/windows/work before I choose to open Sonos.

     

    Currently on macOS 10.15.2.  I even completely wiped the system and did a clean install of Catalina but the issue remains.  I’m also in the most current version on all controllers and devices.  I submit the crash report to Apple every time it happens.

     

    Looking forward to a fix/solution.

    Airgetlam
    December 21, 2019

    Oddly, I’m not experiencing this issue, on either of my Macs. Have you submitted a system diagnostic within 10 minutes of experiencing this issue, and then contact Sonos Support to discuss it, so that they have some data about the situation on which to investigate the issue? Or are you expecting the anecdotal post to be enough to generate this “fix/solution” to something that doesn’t appear to be endemic?

    Bruce
    Trending Lyricist I
    December 21, 2019

    @Airgetlam 

    Thank you for your great suggestion on submitting diagnostics and contacting Sonos support.  I’ll consider doing that in the future.

     

    However, you I don’t appreciate your snarky follow-up.  “Or are you expecting the anecdotal post to be enough to generate this “fix/solution” to something that doesn’t appear to be endemic?”

     

    We can be helpful and respectful without being sarcastic or demeaning.  I intend to offer the same level of respect to members of the community that I expect from others.  Thanks for your support and consideration.

    Trending Lyricist I
    February 25, 2020

    macOS just crashed again after Norton asked permission for incoming connections when opening the macOS controller.  Diagnostic 343909729 immediately after reboot.

    Thanks, Sonos support!