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Contributor I
March 31, 2024
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Non Wifi System?

  • March 31, 2024
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I currently have a HEOS/Denon system that’s connected to Wifi and with 4 hardwired speakers and a Sub that is connected wirelessly (not sure how they did that. Pro install), in my outdoor patio.  I intend to keep the hardwired speakers and use a sonos sub. 

Anyway, I don’t like a wifi system.  I want to be able to play or have guests play their favorites channels via bluetooth rather than getting on my wifi system.

What do I need to accomplish this?

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Best answer by AjTrek1

LarryGee wrote:

So, if the 4 speakers and the Sonos Sub were connected to a Sonos amp AND they were in the same room/patio, then I can accomplish most of what I want. Correct?  

  • Yes, The Sonos Amp is the hub (for lack of a better term) to which the speakers are wired to and the sub (in Sonos speak) is bonded to it to handle the low-end.
  • However, the sub is exclusive to the Amp and speakers wired to it.
  • No other Sonos speaker can send it’s low-end to the sub

LarryGee wrote:

What is the name of the amp or whatever, that all speakers and sub would “bond” to?

  • The Sonos Amp 😊  Click here

AjTrek1 wrote:

If you want your guests to have access to your Sonos system you’ll need to add a Roam, Move 2, Era 100 or Era 300 speaker which are all BT capable. Once the BT connection is made to one of those devices you can group it to Sonos speakers that are not BT capable to enjoy the music whole home.

LarryGee wrote:

That seems a little counter productive since I already will have the 4 hard wired speakers. 

  • Short answer is Not so. Let me explain...
  • In your original post you stated “I want to be able to play or have guests play their favorites channels via bluetooth rather than getting on my wifi system.”
  • The Sonos Amp is not a BT capable component/receiver.
  • The only Sonos speakers that are BT receivers are the Roam, Move 2, Era 100 and Era 300.
  • BT works independently of your Wi-Fi.
  • As long as an iOS or Android device can see the BT capable Sonos speaker the device owner can connect to it via BT.
  • Once connected the BT speakers can be Grouped to the Sonos Amp to play the music over the speakers connected to it

AjTrek1 wrote:

The alternative option (to BT) is to allow guests access to your Sonos is via AirPlay 2. However, WiFi is still required as AirPlay 2 rides on your WiFi. 

LarryGee wrote:

For this to work, am I correct that the guest would have to have an Apple phone and also know my wifi password?  Could I set up a “guest” wifi spot with it’s own password that blocks access to files available on my devices?

  • The Answer is...Yes...access to your network would be required and Yes an iOS device is required.
  • Unfortunately Sonos cannot run on a “guest network”.
  • Therefore BT would be the best solution for connectivity and security.

I hope this answers your questions. Feel free to come back 😊 

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LarryGeeAuthor
Contributor I
April 2, 2024

It might appear so BUT, my existing system (HEOS/Denon) works on WIFI AND Bluetooth. So, if DENON can do it, why couldn’t SONOS? It’s a “newer” product. 

Unfortunately, the receiver is my garage and the speakers/sub are in the pool/patio area.  So, the distance between the receiver and the pool is such that BT drops out frequently.  However Bruce, YOU just gave me an idea!  Why not move the DENON receiver outside, to the patio where it will be closer to people sitting by the pool?  Thank You!

I will try that first, since I was going to ditch the HEOS/DENON anyway, and see if saves me the cost of a new Sonos amp, sub and Roam.

Airgetlam
April 2, 2024

Sonos’ newer products do work on both WiFi and Bluetooth. The devices such as the Roam, the Move 2, and the Era 100 and 300 speakers all have that capability. The devices designed before the Sonos switched to this new feature don’t have that capability built in, but every indication so far is that Sonos will be including it in future products. 

Bruce