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Contributor I
August 3, 2024
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I just CAN'T wait for my new ROON SERVER to arrive

  • August 3, 2024
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Once my new Roon Music Server arrives I will begin phasing out Sonos forever, by replacing my flakey Sonos speakers with hardware that does NOT impose inscrutable proprietary constraints, thereby creating a horrible user experience. Goodbye Sonos. See you in joyless non-musical hell. 

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Best answer by nik9669a

It’s honest and decent of you to “confess”! I’m glad that aspect of your system is sorted; hopefully the music library improvements will be with us soon…

16 replies

ratty
September 21, 2024

 Kevin:

 For some reason I did not notice the fact your library is already on a NAS.  Did you have issues getting Sonos to index your library on that NAS?

https://help.roonlabs.com/portal/en/kb/articles/sonos#:~:text=Sonos%20hardware%20is%20fully%20supported%20in%20Roon!

 Would this make AirPlay unnecessary?

Airplay isn’t necessary anyway for Roon to Sonos. Roon is able to stream as FLAC up to 24/48 to Sonos renderers, and group players as required.

Why use Sonos’ library playback, which continues to have issues, when Roon provides a much richer and responsive experience.

MoPac
Headliner III
September 21, 2024

 Would another advantage using ROON be its ability do down convert to 24/48?  If the ROON core is run with a powerful CPU that would work well.

 In my case, using Sonos, I had to convert higher sample rate files to 24/48 then put them in a Sonos specific folder and add them to a Sonos specific playlist.  So I might have a playlist called Violin Concertos & Violin Concertos ( Sonos ).  Sonos works well for me so I really don’t need ROON.  Anyway the ROONies made those artist pictures round.  What were they thinking!

 I do have systems that will play those higher sample rate files, but when I want to play classical orchestral music the Arc-Sub 3-300s do it better, do it larger.

106rallye
September 21, 2024

The Nucleus looks great. I have a rather large library so would be interested in the maximum HD size of the Nucleus.

It is unfortunate Roon does not do Spotify though. We’re a Spotify Family.

ratty
September 21, 2024

 Would another advantage using ROON be its ability do down convert to 24/48?  If the ROON core is run with a powerful CPU that would work well.

 

Roon Core on an 11th gen Core i3 has at least 20x the required CPU horsepower to downsample a stream from 192kHz on the fly, do R128 volume levelling, apply crossfeed, execute 7-band PEQ, etc etc.

Sonos needs 48kHz. Other devices I use can take 96 or 192 without conversion.

 

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Prodigy II
September 21, 2024

 Kevin:

 For some reason I did not notice the fact your library is already on a NAS.  Did you have issues getting Sonos to index your library on that NAS?

https://help.roonlabs.com/portal/en/kb/articles/sonos#:~:text=Sonos%20hardware%20is%20fully%20supported%20in%20Roon!

 Would this make AirPlay unnecessary?

Airplay isn’t necessary anyway for Roon to Sonos. Roon is able to stream as FLAC up to 24/48 to Sonos renderers, and group players as required.

Why use Sonos’ library playback, which continues to have issues, when Roon provides a much richer and responsive experience.

Why pay a subscription for software just to play back music I own and add yet another single point of failure as every speaker streams from it rather than independently?

Room has its purpose if you want the expanded sleeve note metadata, but for just playing back music it is an expensive overkill imo.

I did evaluate it, but as I just want music playback and don’t care for the expanded sleeve notes side of it, assetupnp + bubbleupnp server and an openhome controller app give me local media, Qobuz/Tidal, the ability to turn any upnp render device into a chromecast or openhome renderer with lightweight, easy to replace/run multiple containers on any machine.

ratty
September 22, 2024

 Kevin:

 For some reason I did not notice the fact your library is already on a NAS.  Did you have issues getting Sonos to index your library on that NAS?

https://help.roonlabs.com/portal/en/kb/articles/sonos#:~:text=Sonos%20hardware%20is%20fully%20supported%20in%20Roon!

 Would this make AirPlay unnecessary?

Airplay isn’t necessary anyway for Roon to Sonos. Roon is able to stream as FLAC up to 24/48 to Sonos renderers, and group players as required.

Why use Sonos’ library playback, which continues to have issues, when Roon provides a much richer and responsive experience.

Why pay a subscription for software just to play back music I own and add yet another single point of failure as every speaker streams from it rather than independently?

The OP had already bought into Roon.

 

Room has its purpose if you want the expanded sleeve note metadata, but for just playing back music it is an expensive overkill imo.

I did evaluate it, but as I just want music playback and don’t care for the expanded sleeve notes side of it, assetupnp + bubbleupnp server and an openhome controller app give me local media, Qobuz/Tidal, the ability to turn any upnp render device into a chromecast or openhome renderer with lightweight, easy to replace/run multiple containers on any machine.

Fine. I’ve also messed with Asset (long ago), Bubble, etc and other DLNA bits and bobs.

I use local music and Qobuz. Roon offers discovery, information and library management features that I appreciate. And MUSE DSP for endpoints that need it. The app is a responsive joy, not a frustration. The cost? A small fraction of my annual car insurance.