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How to build a private Sonos system ?

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June 17, 2024
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Hello everybody,

This is my last attempt to keep my Sonos hardware before throwing them into the nearest trash.

I have 2 Sonos Connect, each one is connected to an old amp (1968 for one, 1986 for the other one), and the amps to mechanical loudspeakers.

As I see the Sonos products evolving, my installation will not last so long. It is already the beginning of the end, with [as explained by the Sonos Support team] the removal of the local music library (please don’t answer that there is an issue with SMB1, this is not my case).

The local library is supposed to come back one day, but I cannot suffer to be at the mercy of the updates that are more and more disconnected with my needs. I mean… Not the needs that the Product Management pretends I have, but the needs that I do really have.

So I am wondering if there could be a way to make my Sonos system private. I would like to avoid any kind of software update, neither at the Sonos Connect level nor the application, and of course to avoid the application to stop working when there is no connection to the Internet for several days, as it did a few years ago (3+ months without the capability to lister any music using the Sonos app !)

Many thanks for your help :-)

Eric

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edejaegerAuthor

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Sonos has indeed made a mess of the introduction of the new app, I agree. Not only with the app itself, but also by not informing their customers up front about the changes and the ways to use the system as they where used to (like pointing them to new TuneIn).

@edejaeger Access to local music should still possible though, be it temporarily without a search function. If this does not function at all on your system, something else must be wrong. If someone from Sonos e-mailed you the function would return, they must have meant something else or be in error.

You could try Plex if you can’t get it to work.

@press250 You also point out a communication failure. Since Sonos has not changed the PC and Mac apps, the menu you mention is still there. Sonos should indeed have pointed out the system needs a new way to connect the library. Having this coincide with the removal of SMBv1 (which was communicated through e-mail to some and within the app to others) is another failure.

Thanks for your message !

I am also using Emby (and not Plex). Emby works very well, I was even able to cast some music to the Sonos Connect… But “was”. I don’t know if the Emby Sonos extension is deprecated or if this is part of a unique global issue. I also have opened a ticket to Emby to know about that.

My local library is empty, there is nothing in it. I have reinstalled the Sonos Windows application today - not reinstalled since I changed my laptop last year because I understood that Sonos wanted everything to be configured from the mobile app, but I see it is not the case).

So, in the Sonos Windows application, I tried to add a new library. The list was just empty. My music is hosted in a NAS, so I browsed to the shared folder to add it. It works until I have to enter the login / password, then I have an error (without any number) because it cannot connect. The authentication fails but it works from Emby and from another NAS.

I am performing additional tests to try to find the root cause…

Thanks again for your answer.

B.R.

press250

Prodigy III

So, in the Sonos Windows application, I tried to add a new library. The list was just empty. My music is hosted in a NAS, so I browsed to the shared folder to add it. It works until I have to enter the login / password, then I have an error (without any number) because it cannot connect. The authentication fails but it works from Emby and from another NAS.

I am performing additional tests to try to find the root cause…

Hi @edejaeger, using the Windows Desktop app is the right move! It is much more stable than the new mobile apps for the time being. Question for you: is your NAS configured to use SMBv2 and/or SMBv3? Sonos dropped support for SMBv1 last month, so that could be your issue.

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Loyal customer for 12 years

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SMBv1 still works using SONOS in S1 configuration, considering OP only has two SONOS Connect, they way to go in this case imho.

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nik9669a

Senior Virtuoso

So, in the Sonos Windows application, I tried to add a new library. The list was just empty. My music is hosted in a NAS, so I browsed to the shared folder to add it. It works until I have to enter the login / password, then I have an error (without any number) because it cannot connect. The authentication fails but it works from Emby and from another NAS.

I am performing additional tests to try to find the root cause…

Hi @edejaeger, using the Windows Desktop app is the right move! It is much more stable than the new mobile apps for the time being. Question for you: is your NAS configured to use SMBv2 and/or SMBv3? Sonos dropped support for SMBv1 last month, so that could be your issue.

If you read the first post, it clearly says “please don’t answer that there is an issue with SMB1, this is not my case”. It’s reaffirmed in a later post when SMB1 issue is again suggested. Do you have any other (original) suggestions?

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edejaegerAuthor

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So, in the Sonos Windows application, I tried to add a new library. The list was just empty. My music is hosted in a NAS, so I browsed to the shared folder to add it. It works until I have to enter the login / password, then I have an error (without any number) because it cannot connect. The authentication fails but it works from Emby and from another NAS.

I am performing additional tests to try to find the root cause…

Hi @edejaeger, using the Windows Desktop app is the right move! It is much more stable than the new mobile apps for the time being. Question for you: is your NAS configured to use SMBv2 and/or SMBv3? Sonos dropped support for SMBv1 last month, so that could be your issue.

Yessss, I am still in SMB2 😁

But thank you 🤗

Eric

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edejaegerAuthor

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So, in the Sonos Windows application, I tried to add a new library. The list was just empty. My music is hosted in a NAS, so I browsed to the shared folder to add it. It works until I have to enter the login / password, then I have an error (without any number) because it cannot connect. The authentication fails but it works from Emby and from another NAS.

I am performing additional tests to try to find the root cause…

Hi @edejaeger, using the Windows Desktop app is the right move! It is much more stable than the new mobile apps for the time being. Question for you: is your NAS configured to use SMBv2 and/or SMBv3? Sonos dropped support for SMBv1 last month, so that could be your issue.

If you read the first post, it clearly says “please don’t answer that there is an issue with SMB1, this is not my case”. It’s reaffirmed in a later post when SMB1 issue is again suggested. Do you have any other (original) suggestions?

Ah ah! Thanks for following consciously my posts 😁

Eric

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nik9669a

Senior Virtuoso

It’s a shame not enough folk read through the full thread. Too often, they “know” the solution and offer it up, even when it’s been suggested and rejected in those prior posts. Ahh well, such is life 😜

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edejaegerAuthor

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SMBv1 still works using SONOS in S1 configuration, considering OP only has two SONOS Connect, they way to go in this case imho.

SMB1 is definitely not the issue, but I took the decision to downgrade my Sonos systems in case of another issue linked to something else in the version.

I will try this next Friday and will tell the result in this feed.

B. R.

Éric

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