connecting my s1 gear without internet

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June 30, 2021
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So I have moved house and have no direct internet connection all I have is a 4g hotspot.

I have

two gen 1 play 5

original bridge

original sub

Ive been told there is no way to connect my gear now without hard wired internet is this true?

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Best answer by 106rallye

You do not need internet to run a Sonos system, only on set up an internet connection is needed. So if you only play music from local sources (probably connected to the Play:5's, or from a local computer) internet on set up and from then on only a wifi connection would be enough. Spotify etc. is out of the quiestion when there's no internet of course….

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powerhouseAuthor

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Maybe we're past due to get the facts straight:

you have wifi from your router; YES
the router is not connected to the internet;YES
you have a working Sonos Bridge connected to the router;YES
you are using the S1 Controller app (not the Sonos app, which is S2 only, see https://support.sonos.com/s/downloads) YES my app states Sonos S1
the Sonos devices used to function together and are not reset. I believe this to be the case yes

Are these the facts?

Then you state: “now because I am required to download and use the app on my phone to create the new Sonos network I can't be connected to the router network and the 4g on my phone at the same time”

If the above facts are right (especially the last bullet), you do not have create a new network - the Bridge does that for you. You can download the app on 4G and use it on your phone when you switch to wifi (at which time you lose internet access). But as long as you do not use internet sources for music (like Spotify) you are OK. I will Try this again but it hasn't worked

You state: “I can't set up my internet free Sonos/Router network". This does not give many clues to help you. Can you please state any error messages you receive while setting up the system? What does the app tell you? What happens when you try to set up or connect to the system?

When I try and connect using the App Sonos s1 on the router network it asks me if I want to use existing network I say yes it says existing network not found then when I try and create network it asks me to sign in which I can't as I am connected to router and not internet

One thing does spring to mind, that we could encounter later on: if you haven't used the system for a while, it's software may be out of date. Since you've redownloaded the app is has the newest software version. Than te system needs an update to.

Maybe this is the problem I haven't used the system as its been in storage a year

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Keithmac

Virtuoso

Could you take all the kit to a friends and borrow their connection to update all units to latest software/ firmware?.

You may have to plug your router into theres to maintain the correct ssid that is stored in your speakers.

106rallye

@powerhouse A right. So you have to sign in to Sonos via the internet while connected to the system, propably because you are setting up. This could be achieved by (temporarily) using another phone as a hotspot and setting the system up on that hotstpot - foregoing the Bridge. Then the phone you are using the app on and the system are on the same network - but only if the scond phone really works as a router (so the system and the phone the app is on will be able to see each other), of which I am not sure.

Setting the system up in a place where there is an internet connection could be your best bet. But remember not to update the app on your phone after the first set up, because the software version of the app and the system needs to be the same.

The 4G router would also achive this, with a bonus that your system can be kept up to date.

@Keithmac Good advice, though with a Bridge there would not be an SSID stored in the system. Tha being said: Sonos advises against using the Bridge because it runs an older version of Sonosnet and, more importantly, it's power supply is prone to intermittent failure because of age.

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